Marxist interpretations of Feminism fail to be useful
Continued on from my last post, which was so rudely deleted. I feel the cold hands of liberal censorship closing around my lips. Can I please be allowed to discuss [s]feminism[/s]?
Feminism must experience an ideological reframing and discard its Marxist undertones to be able to continue to be a helpful ideology. Is that an appropriate phrasing?
Marxism understands the bourgeoisie as oppressing the proletariat by controlling the means of production in a consolidation and formalization of power - where the lower classes are excluded from the majority of surplus value. In the same way, feminism understands men as doing essentially the same thing to women. This is a flawed and mistaken ideology. Since we are physically different, we choose different careers. Understanding female-male relations in the lens of feminism is no longer helpful.
Do you agree?
Feminism must experience an ideological reframing and discard its Marxist undertones to be able to continue to be a helpful ideology. Is that an appropriate phrasing?
Marxism understands the bourgeoisie as oppressing the proletariat by controlling the means of production in a consolidation and formalization of power - where the lower classes are excluded from the majority of surplus value. In the same way, feminism understands men as doing essentially the same thing to women. This is a flawed and mistaken ideology. Since we are physically different, we choose different careers. Understanding female-male relations in the lens of feminism is no longer helpful.
Do you agree?
Comments (12)
Read this: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/7110/how-to-write-an-op
Then post something that shows you have done so below this post. If it's coherent and demonstrates you understand how to put together a decent case for whatever it is you want to argue, I'll leave that stand as the OP.
That's unfortunate. Read the post I linked to, please. Then take your chance to do something decent with your idea if you can.
Whoever deleted it obviously claimed it was low quality.
Can he repost his old OP? I don't mean to get in the way but I at least thought it was good. Not trying to interfere here or anything.
No.
Quoting ToothyMaw
That's unfortunate.
Yes, it is unfortunate - now that it has been consigned to oblivion. I'll leave it alone.
A ridiculous ahistorical statement. Women didn't get to choose and still often don't. And in the instances they do get to choose, they've been molded from when they've been born to fit around a certain gender stereotype by society and often even the parents. And while some of those expectations are detrimental to men as well, in no case have such stereotypes ever included subservience and obedience to the opposite sex as is the case for women. That undercurrent still exists even in traditionally progressive societies, women can choose their careers but God forbid they actually take the lead at home.
Feminists are correct to identify it and continue to argue against it.