Do you realize ...

Agent Smith September 07, 2022 at 10:50 2850 views 12 comments
everyone hates God?

Nobody likes a tyrant. God is that (omnipotent).
Nobody likes a know-it-all smart alec. God is that (omniscience).
Nobody like a holier-than-thou goody two shoes. God is that (omnibenevolent).

Comments (12)

Pinprick September 07, 2022 at 14:47 #736954
Quoting Agent Smith
everyone hates God?


Actually, it’s the other way around…
Agent Smith September 07, 2022 at 16:09 #736983
Quoting Pinprick
Actually, it’s the other way around…


It is really frustrating ... So much rage in that voice - I suppose its typical of death metal singing, screaming rather! I'm sure the vocalist is quite different from the persona he acts out on stage/in the studio. I ain't sure though, it's been so long since I listened to such "songs" and watched/listened the apposite interviews. I need an update, I hope I get the time.

As for God hating us, my all-time favorite God-rant is George Carlin's (vide infra).



You might find :point: God on Trial interesting.

[quote=Richard Dawkins]The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.[/quote]

Quite unfortunate, our plight, some more so than others! :sad:
Nils Loc September 07, 2022 at 19:15 #737056
Quoting Agent Smith
everyone hates God?


He/It is the transcendent outlier and humankind is bewildered/enraged/despaired by the problem/reality of suffering. Just like in attic tragedy, the Biblical king of kings undergoes the pereipetia reserved for all mortals, a fall (through son). Otherwise how could such a being be relatable, if you couldn't empathize with a true victim of a natural cycle of life. God has become one of us, affixed to the cross of time and materiality.

In very simple terms, because God is greatest of outliers, he must partake in the scapegoat sacrifice because that is the natural perennial process/rite, from man to god (in sacrifice) and back from god to man (in sacrifice). It's a show of reciprocity.

Otherwise our hate/despair might consume us...?
Agent Smith September 07, 2022 at 19:34 #737066
Reply to Nils Loc Nice! And Jesus, as he perished - horribly - on the cross uttered "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?"

Why, indeed!

One does come away from this feeling cheated, but then it also makes sense in a weird, hard-to-word, way. Which of these two dominates our lives will determine our overall well-being.

The problem of evil has been/is/will be the greatest test of our faith (in God) - the 1755 Lisbon earthquake triggered a deep soul-searching among intellectual's of the day, causing many folks to embrace atheism. I wonder if Covid had a similar effect on religion! Fascinating!

Yohan September 12, 2022 at 20:25 #738761
Quoting Agent Smith
It is really frustrating ... So much rage in that voice - I suppose its typical of death metal singing, screaming rather! I'm sure the vocalist is quite different from the persona he acts out on stage/in the studio.

:100:
He's catholic.

Agent Smith September 13, 2022 at 02:37 #738855
Quoting Yohan
He's catholic.


Malus Deus. :chin:
Yohan September 13, 2022 at 22:13 #739179
Quoting Agent Smith
Malus Deus. :chin:

What do you think of Apex Predator- Malus Deus, for a band / album name?
*Looked it up. "Apex Predator' is already taken. Malus Deus is also a band.
I wonder if there is any negative term or word in existence for which there isn't a metal band named after it. Could we coin a law for this phenomenon?
Agent Smith September 14, 2022 at 02:31 #739228
Quoting Yohan
What do you think of Apex Predator- Malus Deus, for a band / album name?
*Looked it up. "Apex Predator' is already taken. Malus Deus is also a band.
I wonder if there is any negative term or word in existence for which there isn't a metal band named after it. Could we coin a law for this phenomenon?


Well, I'm not exactly an expert on naming although I'm fascinated by named effect/laws/rules/principles. Perhaps we could call the phenomenon you mentioned (metal bands & their immorally-charged names) Yohan's Law of Metal Band Names, after you the discoverer.
180 Proof September 15, 2022 at 05:21 #739528
Quoting Agent Smith
[E]veryone hates God

e.g. Pandeists. don't. :smirk:
Agent Smith September 15, 2022 at 05:43 #739534
Reply to 180 Proof

Pandeist's should ... hate god? :chin: The problem of suffering/evil doesn't go away, that's what I think anyway.
180 Proof September 15, 2022 at 07:09 #739544
Reply to Agent Smith The "PoE" belongs to poly/heno/mono/pan-en/pan-theism (re: The Riddle of Epicurus) and is not raised by deism, pandeism or acosmism.
Agent Smith September 15, 2022 at 07:39 #739549
Quoting 180 Proof
The "PoE" belongs to poly/heno/mono/pan-en/pan-theism (re: The Riddle of Epicurus) and is not raised by deism, pandeism or acosmism


Okie dokie!