Does this track (order is a contradiction)?

Darkneos June 24, 2023 at 23:38 2125 views 10 comments
I found this on a forum and the title of the thread was Translucense:

1. To make something clear, through rhetoric or rather the use of words, is to make something transparent in the respect that it is now "see through" as its definition allows one to see connections that go beyond said thing. This "seeing through" allows the now clear thing to no longer be a barrier to understanding as its limits become transparent as a result of its perceived connections.

2. The observation of change is the observation of transparency as the phenomenon changing into another is the phenomenon being seen through another thus showing a vacuous yet clear, or rather 'see through', nature to being.

3. It is difficult to rationalize the Truth as rationalization requires the dividing up of said Truth, through definitions, with this division resulting in hindrances as the fine lines of definitions now become barriers.

4. Order requires boundaries. Boundaries require a distinction. A distinction requires a standing apart of one thing from another. This "standing apart" results in contradiction. Order is contradiction.

5. If all is boundaries, and boundaries are distinctions from other boundaries (otherwise without distinction there would be no boundary), then there is a boundary between boundaries thus making the boundary as a contradictive in nature. This contradiction makes the boundary as fundamentally 'see through', thus no longer a boundary, considering the opposition of boundaries makes the nature of the boundary as empty as the act of standing apart through distinction creates a gap through separation; the boundary is a gap and the gap is empty of distinction. This emptiness of the boundary makes it paradoxically not a boundary thus there is nothing is stop one from seeing through it to further boundaries.


Like...does this make any sense or is it just nonsense? Personally nothing here tracks, especially the part about order. IT's just asserted with nothing to show how. If anything it contradicts the first part about connections.

I'm also fairly sure they don't understand the word contradiction.

Comments (10)

jgill June 24, 2023 at 23:57 #817552
1. Seems OK. Beyond that it fizzles off into babbling, IMO.
Darkneos June 25, 2023 at 00:03 #817553
Reply to jgill Number 1 was about the most clear thing said, and that's being generous. Though transparency has more to do with making something understood. To make something clear means it's understood, like what someone means by a word or something.

Though number 4 is just...nonsense. Doesn't explain how order is a contradiction. It might have something to do with 2 but 2 is playing with a MASSIVELY loose definition of transparency. Though even by all definitions it still doesn't make sense. The word has nothing to do with barriers but understanding.

Overall though it's just a bunch of assertions without anything to back it.
jgill June 25, 2023 at 00:17 #817556
A waste of time, I think.
Darkneos June 25, 2023 at 02:01 #817576
Reply to jgill not some sort of secret mystical wisdom if you look hard enough?
jgill June 25, 2023 at 03:07 #817589
Quoting Darkneos
?jgill
not some sort of secret mystical wisdom if you look hard enough?


If one meditated continuously on a bear turd in the forest eventually there would be a moment of enlightenment.
Darkneos June 25, 2023 at 05:58 #817606
Reply to jgill you may have a point there. I guess some part of my brain thinks it’s some cryptic wisdom only discerning minds can understand
Darkneos June 25, 2023 at 14:08 #817664
So it’s just nonsense?
jgill June 26, 2023 at 05:05 #817925
Best to put this baby to beddy bye. :cool:
Srap Tasmaner June 26, 2023 at 05:08 #817926
Reply to Darkneos

I mean, there's some stuff in there that's kinda okay, or at least a start on something that might be interesting, but the style in which it is written is a dead giveaway that it's bullshit.
Darkneos June 26, 2023 at 12:42 #817973
Reply to Srap Tasmaner Yeah unfortunately the forum I got it from has people who think that metaphysics means I can just say vaguely say spiritual bullshit and call it philosophy.