Nailing a Philosopher by god must an atheist

Caldwell August 06, 2023 at 04:13 350 views 10 comments
Nary a task gets completed ever
To prove he was wrong, the philosopher.
For proof is slippery. If he is clever,
He escapes logic, thought, and touchy feeler.

A philosopher's job is never ever done
And least of all not, when he's already gone.
Reality alone is hard to defend as true.
Theory makes no sense?? Chill, dude, that's cool.

Arrogance, haughtiness, upmanship rides.
Sometimes you write posts, into the night.
Sweating out arguments, starting a fight,
Emotions swept up, one gets undignified.

But never mind the name calling, the mud-slinging, the strife,
It is good brain flexing, and gives one a mighty appetite.
Some lose weight, or face, or get outright banned,
But we bounce back, and argue on, as if nothing has happened.

Nobody! Nobody gets convinced
Of the opposing view,
Yet we press on, and nothing
Stops us from stating a point.

We do our part
'Till death does us part.
We endure hatred, laughter, ridicule
To gain ground, if only miniscule.

Ship of fools
Ship of philosophers
We all have mental agendas,
In vino, veritas!!

Comments (10)

javi2541997 August 06, 2023 at 06:16 #827468
Clever poem and satire of what is the nature of this site. The author made a welcomed hymn to TPF and he/she should be decorated. Don't you think? I never thought that satire would be part of a poem but congrats to the poet anyway. He was brave to write this.

ย“or get outright banned,ย”

:yikes:
god must be atheist August 06, 2023 at 06:52 #827480
It sounds so true. Not an overly artistic poem, although the attempt at rhyming indicates an effort. More of a cerebral work than a song, a sentiment, a feeling. I mildly like it for its structure, and the way it puts its point across; however, for me it lacks what poetry should have in its ineffable essence.
Noble Dust August 07, 2023 at 03:33 #827749
A meta-poem about TPF it would seem. Cute.
Pantagruel August 07, 2023 at 13:23 #827931
Kind of Rabelaisian, so I found it entertaining.
Benkei August 07, 2023 at 16:40 #828007
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Janus August 07, 2023 at 23:21 #828144
The content spoke to me, apart from a few parts, but the form turned me off. Not inapt, but poetically inept it seemed to me. That said, it doesn't matter, it's just a bit of fun.
Amity August 10, 2023 at 17:12 #829187
Quoting javi2541997
He was brave to write this.


True. It's a place full of danger. Who knows what lurks...


Quoting god must be atheist
Not an overly artistic poem, although the attempt at rhyming indicates an effort. More of a cerebral work than a song, a sentiment, a feeling.


Agree.

Quoting Janus
it doesn't matter, it's just a bit of fun.


Exactly. Written for the sheer hell and fun of it.

Some of it works, some of it true, but elsewhere... slippery like a jellyfish.

It's OK.

Did you know that a group of jellyfish is called a "smack" or a "smuck"...not a snack. Unless...




Jack Cummins August 18, 2023 at 17:30 #831608
I really like the poem because I can empathise with the content after interacting in this site for nearly 3 years. The idea of the philosopher's job never being done rings true. I also like the inclusion of upmanshipness, bannings and writing of posts in the night. Previous to forum use, I had never imagined all of this in the experience of philosophy.

Apart from the ideas, I think that the poem is well written and structured. I think that the use of rhyme works well in capturing the ideas in the format of a poem.
Amity August 18, 2023 at 18:48 #831619
Reply to Jack Cummins

Excellent points with high degree of empathy.
I think the title says it all.

Nailing a [s]philosopher.[/s] Philosopher. Capital 'P'.

Is it about trying to pin down the meaning of a philosophical claim.
All the better to understand a particular point, a new way of thinking, or plain pedantry?

Or destroying an argument just because you can. Using slippery sleight of hand?
To nail a poster to the cross.

Quoting Caldwell
A philosopher's job is never ever done
And least of all not, when he's already gone.


I like this. People still arguing the toss about Socrates.
Clever Plato and his plays.

***

Quoting Caldwell
Arrogance, haughtiness, upmanship rides.
Sometimes you write posts, into the night.
Sweating out arguments, starting a fight,
Emotions swept up, one gets undignified.


I like the contrast with this:

Quoting Caldwell
Theory makes no sense?? Chill, dude, that's cool.


Almost a love/hate relationship.
Hot then cool.

***

Quoting Caldwell
Nobody! Nobody gets convinced
Of the opposing view,
Yet we press on, and nothing
Stops us from stating a point.


I disagree.

***

Quoting Caldwell
We do our part
'Till death does us part.
We endure hatred, laughter, ridicule
To gain ground, if only miniscule.



'Till death do us part. Like Socrates?
But no small movement.
He rocked.
The ground moved, the soil improved.
Philosophy grew. Solid.
But no real answers.
That's the point.

.
***

For the Love of...what, exactly? Wisdom?
Quoting Caldwell
It is good brain flexing, and gives one a mighty appetite.


Hah. Cue Shoutbox.

Glad I returned to this.
It's very clever and I think I know who wrote it.
Too early to say?







180 Proof August 23, 2023 at 04:47 #832894
Quoting god must be atheist
In vino, veritas!!

I'll drink to that! :party: :yum:
~Sisyphus versus the Stupified!