The Museum by Tobias

Noble Dust August 06, 2023 at 04:15 775 views 48 comments
The building was black, and it was large. Very large, in fact. A huge conic shaped structure that shimmered slightly when the rays of the sun fell against its dark metallic hue. The building was the size of a small village in circumference and towered above the landscape as the tallest of skyscrapers would. One could only guess at the incredible amount of space inside. Walking around it would take an hour probably even when walking at a brisk pace. The building had been under construction for 8 years and was located at the edge of the city.

Even though it was the talk of the town, the construction went on in relative secrecy. Press was not welcome inside the building when it was being decorated, let alone visitors. The workers were asked questions but remained silent about what could be seen inside. What was known was that it would be a multi-storey museum themed around the history of war and that it would show case exhibitions unlike any other. There were rumors about the use of music and light effects, and well before the opening it was already being touted as a ‘historical Gesammtkunstwerk’ and a ‘multimedia artistic experience of life altering proportions’ by London’s connoisseurs. How a museum by itself could be considered as one work of art or what it was even like inside remained unknown. It was confirmed that numerous paintings displayed in museums across the country had been relocated to the building, but that would only take up a fraction of the available exhibition space. Fine paintings, but nothing one could not see in the big museums on the continent or further abroad. There were many workers though, bringing in all sorts of materials and the rumor was that the bulk of whatever artworks present, was created inside.

I am about to see it, as I stand in line for the opening day with eager anticipation. It is still early morning, and the line is long, winding its way around the building. I will not be the first to see it of course. There was a royal opening yesterday and the queen entered first followed by members of Parliament, the distinguished professors at British universities and the entrepreneurial doyens who made this mega project possible. I am one of the commoners, one of the first, as I have been waiting in this long queue for about three hours now. Visitors have come from afar to London to see this museum on its opening day together with droves of art lovers from the city itself. I am one of the travelers, I have been on the way for 12 hours straight, night train and all. The line will take time too, but what I will be seeing will be worth it, I am sure. I am alone, but I do not mind. This experience will be just mine.

Before me in the que I see a small woman with curly auburn hair. She stands out in the crowd and she reminds me of a girl I knew and desperately wished to date in high school. She is almost inside by now and I am quite close by, trailing her. At least the long wait has come to an end and I will see the museum, no, experience it. When it is my time to go in, I enter through a rather simple door. The door is no different than the rest of the exterior, shining black metal and glass. I am shown inside together with an Indian couple chatting enthusiastically to each other in a language I cannot not understand. The friendly doorman checks my ticket and inside I notice a simple but stylish looking hallway with four large shiny black elevator doors at the end. There is only one button they explain to me and the other guests. Press it and it will take you up. You will be shown further from there. The elevator goes up and we look at each other in anticipation, the chattering couple, a German woman two British boy students and me.
As there is no indication of the storeys that we are passing and because elevator speed is hard to measure, I do not know how high up I am in the building when the doors slide open. I find myself in a round-shaped stairwell that bears no resemblance to the futuristic exterior of the building or the modern interior of the entrance. Instead, it resembles an old bell tower, with large, sturdy stone stairs leading both up and down.

“This way sir” I am informed by an elderly gentleman who is obviously one of the attendants. I hear muffled sounds around me, cries, thumps, tones of a base, nothing clearly audible but it reverberates through my body. I climb up the stairwell and pass a few other people when I notice two women just up ahead. One is the woman with curly auburn hair. I recognize her now clearly. It is indeed my old crush Rachel together with a high school friend who I also recognize from her silvery pale blond hair. They are talking and their voices sound immediately familiar. They bring me back to those high school years. Her laughter, the slight tinge of irony that she seemed to always use when talking. It made one wonder if she really meant anything she said. I wonder with distinct clarity whether this crush has really ever left me? Possibly not. We have never been lovers, but we are both still single now probably if she is with a female friend… I compose myself and realize that I am much older now and that I should act my age. After all, it is a most remarkable coincidence that we meet again here. “Hi Rach, it has been a while!”, I say with a smile and a tone of voice which I just hope sounds self-assured. “Bennyyyy!” She giggles and she flings her arms around my neck in a tight hug. My name is Benjamin, but no one calls me that, at least not during my high school years. “What a coincidence and what great timing! I just knew you would be here!”. Why is not clear to me because in high school I never stood out for my love of art. My love for war games was known though, maybe that was it.

We decide to walk up the stairs shown to us by another attendant and the thumping gives way to music. While we talk, we are shown inside a room and there paintings hang. They are all paintings of war, mostly at sea, of battles, of ships. They are reminiscent of those 17th and 18th century paintings which you also see in the Amsterdam Maritime Museum for instance. They are impressive, but nothing like a ‘Gesammtkunstwerk’, though the classical piano music that is now audible adds a nice touch. I am way more interested in our conversation anyway to really notice.

As we return to the stairwell and start to descend, we are joined by a younger man who shows much interest in Rachel. I must confess he is flamboyant and has a way with words. I also think I recognize him. Yes, he is one of the resident DJ’s of the museum, featured in a two-page newspaper interview. Of course, he remained tight lipped but a museum with a DJ was news in itself and news about the museum even reached my country. I now find myself shut out of the conversation as Rach is laughing about his well-timed jokes. He also has the attention of her friend. As we walk down the stairs, techno like beats become louder and he explains he composed the music, much to the admiration of Rachel. He starts being flirty towards her, but she keeps her distance it seems. Polite but certain she rejects his overtures, which makes me smile. I recognize I am being too reactive and feel silly about it. We arrive in a hallway with multiple doors. When they proceed to enter a room, I tell them I will have a look at the room on the left. We will see each other again on the stairwell.

The room is remarkable actually and features long corridors covered by video screens. There is not a scrap of empty wall to be seen. The screens show well known historical politicians giving speeches, Hitler, Churchill, Ataturk, Kennedy, Mussolini, Putin. On others there are scenes of battles and bombardments. Almost lifelike, the child hit with napalm in Vietnam seems to rush past me, her naked skin burning. I see grieving mothers and storm troopers attacking trenches throwing hand grenades. I hear the historical speeches with intermittent noise of explosions and the techno beats accompany them with an unchanging rhythm as if the march of history unfolds in sound. I wander around, impressed, but my mind is elsewhere, just as it so often was in the past. I walk back to the hallway with the doors. I notice the stairs go down, but there is also an elevator. Not a modern one as the ones near the entrance but an old one, an old paternoster lift it seems. I need to wait a bit as a couple of people just took it down, but I want to wait anyway, trying to spot Rachel and her friend. She does not appear, and I take the elevator down which descends for quite a while. Eventually It becomes totally dark until I reach another floor. There is only one door there and the attendant shows me inside.

I find myself in a huge hall, with a remarkably high ceiling. One really must bend the neck to see it. I walk inside and reminds me of some sort of abandoned village. I am wandering through dwellings, rooms, but they have no roof, just the high ceiling above. The rooms have furniture, but it is all remarkably oddly placed and shaped, sometimes too small, more often way too large. The rooms look like they are abandoned in a hurry and sometimes they seem destroyed or vandalized. in a room I see a couch standing almost upwards on its side, but the couch is much too big for the room, it is the size of a small bus. Tables are turned over and their large legs poke into the air at odd angles sometimes even blocking the walkways. I might get lost here I think when the music starts playing. Loud, almost deafening techno fills my ears and I notice sirens as if an air raid is incoming. I hear a thunderous explosion and I see dust and grit flare up right behind me, though there is no fire or heat. I start walking on hurriedly, I twist around the hallway almost stumbling over an old radio seemingly thrown down in the middle of the path. It makes a crackling almost laughing noise, “I love you, I love you, hehehehehe”. I start walking as fast as I can without tripping, over the debris and I enter rooms where plates are still on the tables but the huge tables are slanted sideways. The plates keep sticking on the tables I notice. The cupboards are open, showing foodstuffs like tea, bread and honey. A creaking noise is audible between the music and the sound of thunder.

Through the explosions, the incessant techno beats, and the swirling dust cloud, I cannot see the way back anymore, as my vision becomes blurred. The rest of the visitors seem as disoriented as me and as I rush on, I see an African couple pleading with an attendant. I join them and listen. They ask in a panicky voice why this place is so disorienting. They cannot concentrate on anything they complain, and they do not know the way back anymore. The attendant calmly explains that this is a museum about war and that war is disorienting, not a situation that allows for concentration or focusing of the senses. They ask him to please show them the way out, but he just smiles and in a friendly voice asks them to proceed. When I start to speak up to ask him the way back to the stairwell because I am waiting for someone, I see her face down the corridor. She is on this floor apparently and I run in her direction.

Another explosion of dust makes me lose sight of her and when it subsides, I walk on looking left and right. My eyes peer inside another room. It is a bedroom, this one has some sort of roof over it, with a hole in the ceiling. In the room I see a bed and on this bed lays a couple. The bed and the couple are covered in dust and grit and it is like the man protects his woman from the falling debris with his body. But she has her legs wrapped around his hips and looking at the girl’s face I realize she is climaxing repeatedly; she is writhing, and her face is contorted in a grimace that expresses both agony and bliss. Suddenly shocked, aware of my voyeurism I rush on, but the sounds grow even louder, and I am stumbling over derelict furniture while avoiding crashing into the other guests who seem to have no idea where they are going. They are lost just like me. I intend to find Rachel, but I do not see her face again. Once I think I see a glimpse of her hair, then it is gone. I turn right, after being startled by an explosion and I find myself inside a derelict children’s room, the once colorful wallpaper torn and stained as if the room is long abandoned. A crib with the size of a car occupies most of the room. The soft crying of a child emerges from it, but I cannot look inside as the crib is too large.

I must be at the outer edge I think when I suddenly approach a black, shimmering, slightly bended wall. I walk along the wall until arriving at a staircase going down. The stairs are made of marble with anti-slip strips. They look familiar to me as they remind me of the stairs in the subway stations of my city. I go down and I reach two large, steel, grated orange doors, like a gate. They look familiar too. They are the same doors that close off the subway station at night. They are made of heavy steel, and they are shut tight. Within the main gate there is another door I notice, steel and grated as well, but with a handle. I try the handle and the door gives way. I turn back up the stairs intending to find Rachel and her friend and take them to what seems to be an exit. I change my mind halfway up. Calmly I descend again and open the small orange door and step outside. I feel the cool air on my warm skin, and I notice how much I rushed. When I close the door behind me and walk outside, I realize I must be far from the main entrance. I am no longer in the city. I find myself on a winding railroad track with pebbles between the wooden sleepers. I try to open the door out of curiosity, but it is shut. I walk away from the building proceeding along the track.

Comments (48)

javi2541997 August 06, 2023 at 19:30 #827649
Nice. I liked the story, a bit long but it is well written and it is easy to follow. Well, I tend to like stories where the plot is the connection with an object. The object of this story is a large building (it is like many houses of old people, filled with things from a certain era) where different visitors go to see it in the inauguration day. Yet, it seems that they end up being more connected inside the crowd.
The plot becomes more and more complex as the scenario does start to encroach upon the protagonist. The ending is ambiguous and I like it.
Noble Dust August 06, 2023 at 19:42 #827652
I thought this author was really good at describing the unique and unusual physical surroundings experienced by the protagonist. I don't know what it is with me, but often those sorts of descriptions kind of make my eyes glaze over and I have to read them twice or three times because they don't register and I don't get a clear mental picture. Just a weakness of mine or whatever. This author did it skillfully in a way that worked well for me.

The story itself is intriguing and kept my interest, if rather odd. I like ambiguous endings, and this one worked pretty well, although it felt a bit anti-climactic to me. I need to re-read this one (and all of them). I enjoyed it.
Jamal August 08, 2023 at 07:36 #828242
I mostly enjoyed this, although I think it needs a lot of editing and revision, and the writing lacks something—muscularity or strength or something. The stuff about Rachel, high school, and so on, sucks the life out of it for me, but the setting, the building, and best of all the war stuff, are great. The disorientation and horror of war are brilliantly conveyed and effectively disturbing in a dreamlike way. I suspect it’s actually based partly on a dream. The ending felt weak and I didn’t understand it, and on the whole it doesn’t hang together as more than a series of images and ideas.

I have many more minor complaints but they’re just the kind of thing that could be fixed with editing.

Despite my negativity I want to stress that I liked it. It pulled me in from the start and some of the images and moods inside the museum were very good indeed.
Jamal August 08, 2023 at 08:12 #828252
Quoting javi2541997
a bit long


It’s not particularly long for a short story, on the short side in fact.
javi2541997 August 08, 2023 at 08:45 #828258
Reply to Jamal I agree, but I consider it "long" regarding when a non-native speaker like me has to read it. This is why I said I gave my best reading the stories and why I had to use the dictionary or translator.
Jamal August 08, 2023 at 09:06 #828264
Caldwell August 09, 2023 at 02:34 #828507
I wanted something to happen. The museum itself should have been the backdrop for an incident. It was a good exploratory piece, but that's where it ended and nothing else. The length of this piece is more than enough to tell a story, but I didn't find a story in it at all. I couldn't root for or hate the narrator.

Jamal August 09, 2023 at 09:20 #828589
I forgot to mention that this story reminded me of Severian’s visit to the Botanic Gardens in Gene Wolfe’s The Book of the New Sun.
Jack Cummins August 09, 2023 at 10:39 #828613
I do like the story and see the museum as a character in it's own right. I partly disagree with the comment above about nothing happening because it is such a vivid scene. I think that it is very well written, but doesn't seem finished and probably needs more work on it and editing to make what is important stand out.
hypericin August 09, 2023 at 14:25 #828665
Quoting Jamal
I suspect it’s actually based partly on a dream.


I think this is the key. There is a kind of flow that is very dreamlike. A dream of a museum that didn't just tell of war or display its artifacts, but actually gave the experience of war. The part that is most effective to me is how it transitions from a relatively pedestrian museum experience to chaos and disorientation. Very dreamlike, or surreally cinematic.

I think the ending might just be the ending of the author's dream.

Were the too large furniture to give a child's experience of war?

:up:

I have to say I would be pissed if I were in this museum and they decided to blare techno for some reason!


180 Proof August 10, 2023 at 01:35 #828943
[quote=Jamal]I forgot to mention that this story reminded me of Severian’s visit to the Botanic Gardens in Gene Wolfe’s The Book of the New Sun.[/quote]
For me, it's sort of reminiscent of The Castle in Gormenghast. Good writing, but I didn't feel feel anything.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 07:49 #829042
Reply to 180 Proof

Quoting Noble Dust
The building was black, and it was large.


Peake would write it like this:

The conic edifice, black as the thoughts of the midnight raven, blocked out half the sky and rose up blasphemously towards the heavens in an obscene violation of the idea of a mountain.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 08:26 #829044
Quoting hypericin
A dream of a museum that didn't just tell of war or display its artifacts, but actually gave the experience of war. The part that is most effective to me is how it transitions from a relatively pedestrian museum experience to chaos and disorientation.


I agree that was the most effective bit. It came alive in that passage.
Amity August 10, 2023 at 09:18 #829053
The Museum

Not just any museum but A Big, Black Museum brilliantly described.
We are immediately transported:

Quoting Noble Dust
The building was black, and it was large. Very large, in fact. A huge conic shaped structure that shimmered slightly when the rays of the sun fell against its dark metallic hue. The building was the size of a small village in circumference and towered above the landscape as the tallest of skyscrapers would. One could only guess at the incredible amount of space inside. Walking around it would take an hour probably even when walking at a brisk pace. The building had been under construction for 8 years and was located at the edge of the city.


Who gave planning permission for this invasive monstrosity? Any building regulations? Who built it?

Quoting Noble Dust
a multi-storey museum themed around the history of war and that it would show case exhibitions unlike any other. There were rumors about the use of music and light effects, and well before the opening it was already being touted as a ‘historical Gesammtkunstwerk’ and a ‘multimedia artistic experience of life altering proportions’ by London’s connoisseurs.


Interesting to read about the Gesamtkunstwerk principle: to combine all aspects of architecture, art, music, theatre and life. A total and universal artwork. And the author tells us that it will be life-altering.

But only accessible to those with the means. London being the Centre of the Universe with its hierarchical entry system: royals, politicians, academic profs and Quoting Noble Dust
the entrepreneurial doyens who made this mega project possible. I am one of the commoners, one of the first [...]
Visitors have come from afar to London... I am one of the travelers, I have been on the way for 12 hours straight, night train and all. The line will take time too, but what I will be seeing will be worth it, I am sure. I am alone, but I do not mind. This experience will be just mine.


This will be an immersive experience - that of the author alone.
Already hints dropped that this is a dream. Perhaps a recurring nightmare. Anxieties related to the past, present, and future.
Sure enough, we are taken right back to High School with all its longings and growing pains:

Quoting Noble Dust
I see a small woman with curly auburn hair. She stands out in the crowd and she reminds me of a girl I knew and desperately wished to date in high school. She is almost inside by now and I am quite close by, trailing her.[...]
It is indeed my old crush Rachel...Her laughter, the slight tinge of irony that she seemed to always use when talking. It made one wonder if she really meant anything she said. I wonder with distinct clarity whether this crush has really ever left me? Possibly not.


Rachel. An important piece of the Gesamtkunstwerk. Part of the protagonist's sleeping mind.
As we fall down this labyrinthine rabbit hole, we encounter jealousies, feelings of being small and lost.
We join in this vivid, all-senses-engaged experience. So very well captured:

Quoting Noble Dust
I am wandering through dwellings, rooms, but they have no roof, just the high ceiling above. The rooms have furniture, but it is all remarkably oddly placed and shaped, sometimes too small, more often way too large. The rooms look like they are abandoned in a hurry and sometimes they seem destroyed or vandalized. in a room I see a couch standing almost upwards on its side, but the couch is much too big for the room, it is the size of a small bus. Tables are turned over and their large legs poke into the air at odd angles sometimes even blocking the walkways.


Then the disturbing and disorienting war-scape:

Quoting Noble Dust
Through the explosions, the incessant techno beats, and the swirling dust cloud, I cannot see the way back anymore, as my vision becomes blurred. The rest of the visitors seem as disoriented as me and as I rush on, I see an African couple pleading with an attendant. I join them and listen. They ask in a panicky voice why this place is so disorienting.


But then, Rachel makes her appearance and the obsession takes hold:

Quoting Noble Dust
When I start to speak up to ask him the way back to the stairwell because I am waiting for someone, I see her face down the corridor. She is on this floor apparently and I run in her direction.


Rachel is the elusive ghost of Times Past. More nightmarish intrusions, lost and shocked in voyeurism. Finally:

Quoting Noble Dust
I try the handle and the door gives way. I turn back up the stairs intending to find Rachel and her friend and take them to what seems to be an exit. I change my mind halfway up. Calmly I descend again and open the small orange door and step outside. I feel the cool air on my warm skin, and I notice how much I rushed. When I close the door behind me and walk outside, I realize I must be far from the main entrance. I am no longer in the city. I find myself on a winding railroad track with pebbles between the wooden sleepers. I try to open the door out of curiosity, but it is shut. I walk away from the building proceeding along the track.


After travelling through many doors, up and down stairs and lifts, rooms within rooms to find Rachel.
Frustrated at every turn, still loving and caring for... a memory...unfinished business.

And now there is a calm closure, no more chasing a dream. Still in the dream, a new road beckons.
The Museum. Gesamtkunstwerk. Life-altering indeed. A change of mind, underlined.

***

A wonderful and immersive experience for the reader. Congratulations to the author :clap:


180 Proof August 10, 2023 at 09:42 #829059
Benkei August 10, 2023 at 16:19 #829175
Seems like Tobias had a dream again. I'm missing the twist. It still remains in the bounds of reality and this story is begging for something weird to happen but never delivers. In the end, it's a anticlimactic. That said, most of this is beautifully written.
hypericin August 10, 2023 at 18:14 #829219
Quoting Jamal
Peake would write it like this:

The conic edifice, black as the thoughts of the midnight raven, blocked out half the sky and rose up blasphemously towards the heavens in an obscene violation of the idea of a mountain.


Was that really how he wrote? Its been a while, but that sounds Lovecraftian to me.
The obvious Peake connection is not the language but the whole building as world idea.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 18:23 #829224
Reply to hypericin Lovecraft is vague, Peake is precise. I attempted to be Peakean and was probably only partially successful, but from what I recall—I read Lovecraft in my twenties—Lovecraft didn’t write like that. He was all about the nameless horrors, impossible to describe. Peake meticulously described everything.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 18:39 #829233
Reply to hypericin I drew from two passages:

This tower, patched unevenly with black ivy, arose like a mutilated finger from among the fists of knuckled masonry and pointed blasphemously at heaven.


It was horrible. It was as though nature had lost control. As though the smile, as a concept, as a manifestation of pleasure, had been a mistake, for here on the face of Swelter, the idea had been abused.
hypericin August 10, 2023 at 19:03 #829243
Quoting Jamal
This tower, patched unevenly with black ivy, arose like a mutilated finger from among the fists of knuckled masonry and pointed blasphemously at heaven.


But notice that this passage paints a pretty specific image in your mind. Whereas your version spends a lot of words hyping how evil the thing is, while visually the reader doesn't get more than it is a BBC (big black cone).
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 19:10 #829250
180 Proof August 10, 2023 at 19:21 #829262
Quoting hypericin
The obvious Peake connection is not the language but the whole building as world idea.

:up:
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 19:29 #829266
Y'all are making me consider picking TItus Groan back up. Maybe.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 19:40 #829270
Reply to Noble Dust Do it!

I can totally understand someone abandoning it in the first hundred pages. It takes its time to tell the story.

Even aside from what everyone else says is great about it, I personally respond to Peake’s deep humaneness—you get the feeling that the author is just a great guy with incredible empathy.

Interestingly though, I’ve read and enjoyed stories by people who I suspected were assholes, even though their work was amazing. E.g. Robert Aickman.
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 19:44 #829275
Reply to Jamal

I liked it and like the idea of it, but I'm not sure if that sort of story is for me, ultimately. I think I even might have made it to around 150 pages or so. He is definitely a great writer.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 19:48 #829278
Reply to Noble Dust I do actually think that Peake is a matter of taste. His great work is in my top five or even three, but I get why people—people who like literature, not morons—don’t like it.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 19:59 #829282
I want to commend the writer of this story for the simple idea—quite Ballardian—of an impossibly large conical building in the outskirts of London. That was one of the things that pulled me in.
Tobias August 10, 2023 at 20:21 #829290
From the shadows he came with foreboding step. His eternal sleep had been cold, dark but restful at least and now it was disturbed by these chattering children of Athena.
A furrowed brow betrayed his intentions, gloomy as the Russian tundra and angry as a rooster disturbed before dawn.

First up was a man named @Noble Dust. Looking up the man tried to show his respect by kneeling before the towering figure. It was not to be... dust to dust.
@180 Proof was a scrappy one, a fighter, a wordsmith and a tantrickster, but here stood a towering giant, tall as the sequoia's of California and with the strength of two grizzly bears. His objections were wiped aside and so was he, "only liquor requires proof" the giant chuckled. @Benkei saw it and ran. The giant let him go, he was a fast one with that blond hair and stylish sunglasses, yes, stylish, well dressed, but insignificant to a man of his standing as a drop of water is to the ocean.

@hypericin" with all his wit tried to reason with the man whose anger seemed only further aroused by the recent altercations. Jamal stood behind the brave but small Hypericin and he did not dare look as the giant approached. The forlorn legend laid bare his teeth, what was left of them at least, in a crooked grimace as he approached the two trembling writers. Who woke Titus? His booming voice sent a trail of birds fluttering into the heavens. With a blow that could knock out a wild African elephant he struck the poor man and sent him flailing to the ground. As his gaze met Jamal's the latter was overcome with awe, even reverence. Peake he muttered awestruck, Peake...
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 20:39 #829295
Quoting Tobias
who's


*whose.
Tobias August 10, 2023 at 20:52 #829299
Quoting Jamal
*whose.


That was a low blow so it was... sobs
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 20:56 #829302
Reply to Tobias Sorry man. I couldn’t resist the temptation to burst your bubble. I don’t know what that says about me. You wrote a beautiful, witty, creative post and all I could do was pick out your idiotic mistake. I feel bad about it.
Benkei August 10, 2023 at 20:58 #829304
Reply to Jamal And then called him an idiot while doing so. Seems to me you don't feel that bad about it all and are now doubling down. :naughty:
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 21:03 #829305
Reply to Benkei Even when I give you honey, there’s always a sting in the tail.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 21:09 #829307
If it makes any non-native English speakers feel better, most native English speakers I know get it wrong too. Whose/who’s is one of those English bugbears.
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 21:20 #829313
Quoting Jamal
most native English speakers I know get it wrong too.


I’m incensed at the suggestion that I would make such a mistake.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 21:25 #829315
Reply to Noble Dust But you’re one of the select few, no? The pickle munching East Coast intellectuals.
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 21:27 #829316
Reply to Jamal

I kid. I am, however, a member of The Pickle Munching East Coast Intellectuals, yes. A very elite literary circle not many know about. I’m impressed you’ve heard of us out there in the tundra, or Barcelona, or wherever you’re scampering off to at the moment.
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 21:29 #829319
Reply to Noble Dust Jamal does not scamper.
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 22:29 #829341
Quigley there, he ran full bore towards Jamal, followed closely by a slobbering zombie. Panic was in Quigley's blood shot eyes and his jiggly beer gut made a subtle “thwap thwap” as he breathlessly stumbled forward.

“Move out th’ wee ye tourist!” He bleated. The zombie finally caught up with him, snagged his leg, toppling the blob, and began feasting like a vulture on carrion. Jamal simply stood by in shock like a transfixed museum patron. Shards of the former talk show host’s custom-designed outfit were being strewn about at random, and at that moment Jamal noted the near-corpse’s unfortunate lack of deodorant.

“Jesus Christ,” he muttered in disgust.

Like most philosophers, Jamal had spent the better part of the day prancing around in his red, white and blue lambo, hitting up various dive bars around town trying to pick up chicks. Unlike most philosophers, however, he was unsuccessful. Dejected, he resolved to return to his domicile to work on his pet project, an AI program that would help police departments differentiate between victims and perpetrators in vague scenarios, especially near borders, where laws were rather oblique. Sadly, on his way he nearly zoomed off a ledge, crashing into a lamp post whose bulb had broken off and landed on the car's hood. Jamal had just stumbled out to put some duct tape over the dent when Quigley and the zombie had scampered around the corner.

"Who's this ugly duck?" He had wondered, not being much for television.

As bones were crunched and blood flew all over the place, Jamal realized there were probably more nasty zombie babes nearby. Assuming his car was toast, Jamal scurried off.
Noble Dust August 10, 2023 at 23:02 #829346
That's a prototypical example of the kind of prose you can find being passed around in TPMECI.
Tobias August 10, 2023 at 23:24 #829352
:rofl:
Jamal August 10, 2023 at 23:33 #829354
Baden August 11, 2023 at 23:17 #829654
Reply to Noble Dust

:cheer: :clap:
Jamal August 12, 2023 at 09:02 #829733
Quoting Jamal
I mostly enjoyed this, although I think it needs a lot of editing and revision


I thought I’d come back and elaborate on this, in a spirit of pedantic but constructive criticism.

Quoting Noble Dust
The building was black, and it was large. Very large, in fact. A huge conic shaped structure that shimmered slightly when the rays of the sun fell against its dark metallic hue. The building was the size of a small village in circumference and towered above the landscape as the tallest of skyscrapers would. One could only guess at the incredible amount of space inside. Walking around it would take an hour probably even when walking at a brisk pace. The building had been under construction for 8 years and was located at the edge of the city.


A very good opening. I was hooked. But I’d change some details…

Quoting Noble Dust
The building was black, and it was large. Very large, in fact.


The rest of the paragraph does a great job of conveying the size of the museum, so these first sentences seem superfluous.

Quoting Noble Dust
The building was black, and it was large. Very large, in fact. A huge conic shaped structure that shimmered slightly when the rays of the sun fell against its dark metallic hue. The building was the size of a small village in circumference and towered above the landscape as the tallest of skyscrapers would.


I’d write it something like this:

It was a conical structure with the circumference of a village. Towering above the landscape like a mountain, it shimmered when the rays of the sun fell on its black metallic surface.


Next…

Quoting Noble Dust
One could only guess at the incredible amount of space inside.


The first thing I thought was, given the radius of the base, and the height, numbers that would probably have been widely known—or you could probably estimate them without going too far wrong—then you could calculate the volume easily. That would be more than a guess, to my way of thinking.

If it’s rather just meant to mean that the volume is incredibly large, supplying the number might be more effective…

Using the area of the village of Alfriston in East Sussex (9360000 m^2) and the height of the Burj Khalifa skyscraper (828 m) we get 7,750,080,000 m^3, that's 7.75 billion cubic metres, which is 7.75 cubic kilometres. Yeah, that’s a big museum.

So you could do something like this:

It was a conical structure with the circumference of a village. Towering above the landscape like a mountain, it must have enclosed billions of cubic metres. It shimmered when the rays of the sun fell on its black metallic surface.


Okay, I've taken this volume thing too far.

Quoting Noble Dust
Even though it was the talk of the town, the construction went on in relative secrecy. Press was not welcome inside the building when it was being decorated, let alone visitors. The workers were asked questions but remained silent about what could be seen inside. What was known was that it would be a multi-storey museum themed around the history of war and that it would show case exhibitions unlike any other. There were rumors about the use of music and light effects, and well before the opening it was already being touted as a ‘historical Gesammtkunstwerk’ and a ‘multimedia artistic experience of life altering proportions’ by London’s connoisseurs. How a museum by itself could be considered as one work of art or what it was even like inside remained unknown. It was confirmed that numerous paintings displayed in museums across the country had been relocated to the building, but that would only take up a fraction of the available exhibition space. Fine paintings, but nothing one could not see in the big museums on the continent or further abroad. There were many workers though, bringing in all sorts of materials and the rumor was that the bulk of whatever artworks present, was created inside.


A good paragraph, building on the intriguing opening paragraph. It introduced me to the concept of the Gesamtkunstwerk. Excellent.

But I don't see how the workforce, which must have been huge, could be totally silenced. Details would leak out. Also, the information that the city in question is London seems to come a bit late, as if in passing. It was only a problem for me because until that point I'd assumed from the way it was being told that this was a nameless, imaginary city. When it turns out to be London it's a bit jarring. I feel the story would be stronger if the city remained just as "the city".

Quoting Noble Dust
I am about to see it, as I stand in line for the opening day with eager anticipation. It is still early morning, and the line is long, winding its way around the building. I will not be the first to see it of course. There was a royal opening yesterday and the queen entered first followed by members of Parliament, the distinguished professors at British universities and the entrepreneurial doyens who made this mega project possible. I am one of the commoners, one of the first, as I have been waiting in this long queue for about three hours now. Visitors have come from afar to London to see this museum on its opening day together with droves of art lovers from the city itself. I am one of the travelers, I have been on the way for 12 hours straight, night train and all. The line will take time too, but what I will be seeing will be worth it, I am sure. I am alone, but I do not mind. This experience will be just mine.


Kind of seems odd to me that there would be a single queue, presumably to enter a single entrance, in a building with such a gigantic ground floor. But maybe I'm still over-fixated on the building's size.

Quoting Noble Dust
Before me in the que I see a small woman with curly auburn hair. She stands out in the crowd and she reminds me of a girl I knew and desperately wished to date in high school.


The use of high school and line (for queue) in the previous paragraph (despite the use of "que" here) suggests to me that the author is an American trying to disguise his or her nationality by setting the story in London. On the other hand, it might just point to a young British author under the influence of an increased Americanization of language.

Quoting Noble Dust
The friendly doorman checks my ticket


Surely such a gigantic modern building, where massive numbers of visitors are expected, would have a turnstile system with ticket scanners.

Quoting Noble Dust
I find myself in a round-shaped stairwell that bears no resemblance to the futuristic exterior of the building or the modern interior of the entrance. Instead, it resembles an old bell tower, with large, sturdy stone stairs leading both up and down.


Here, the dreamlike quality begins to make itself felt.

That's enough for now. I may come back and continue.
Nils Loc August 12, 2023 at 19:11 #829905
The concept Gesamtkunstwerk helps me understand the oddity of the museum somewhat. The mix of war history with electronic dance music and the fun house elements of oversized and upturned furniture makes me want to ask about the design purpose behind this strange creative project. Sort of recalls something like Ripley's Believe It or Not, except with history thrown in.

For me the narrator fails to deliver or translate the experience as an emotional novelty. The report of things as they happen is a bit flat possibly due to a lack of interesting focus. I'd like to see an exhibit with the narrator and hear his commentary, what he might of learned or is surprised by. I want to be immersed too. Instead it feels like the whole experience is peripheral, as if we're peering through the haze of a dream. I don't really feel much, or carry much anticipatory desire for what comes next.

The meeting of the girl from his past is thin. We don't really get a taste of her or the narrator's character. Nothing results from the meeting.

What if what comes next is the narrator finds himself in the past, standing in line for the next exhibit, as he enters a concentration camp.

I do like the concept though, it has potential, like a dish that needs a bit more flavor. I wish I had the attention span (lol) to write a story half a good.


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Vera Mont August 17, 2023 at 17:00 #831372
I didn't care for it. The museum itself was a disappointment - way too much building and build-up for a lot of stairs, a picture gallery and two fairly obvious installations. There is this humungous lineup, yet the narrator is nearly alone in all three rooms. Only three rooms and nothing interactive. Another disappointment was the Little Red-haired Girl: she was only marginally interactive: did nothing, said nothing of substance, nothing was resolved and she's back out of the picture. He travelled twelve hours to stumble over misproportioned furniture? I think the guy was robbed! Iron gates and railroad tracks? What for?
Maybe I'm just thick, but I didn't find a story.
Amity August 25, 2023 at 17:27 #833498
Reply to Vera Mont Well, you're not thick but I thought I'd revisit this. To check if I had read the same story.

Quoting Jamal
The stuff about Rachel, high school, and so on, sucks the life out of it for me


Quite the opposite for me. Rachel was central.
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Quoting Caldwell
I wanted something to happen. The museum itself should have been the backdrop for an incident...I didn't find a story in it at all. I couldn't root for or hate the narrator.


Quoting Jack Cummins
I partly disagree with the comment above about nothing happening because it is such a vivid scene


The museum or Gesamtkunstwerk was the dream/nightmare setting. The story was about the narrator's long obsession with Rachel. I agree with Jack. I found the scene and the experience of following the nightmare vivid, almost hallucinatory. Excellent descriptions.
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Quoting hypericin
A dream of a museum that didn't just tell of war or display its artifacts, but actually gave the experience of war. The part that is most effective to me is how it transitions from a relatively pedestrian museum experience to chaos and disorientation. Very dreamlike, or surreally cinematic.


Yes. You got it.
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Excerpts from previous posts:

Quoting Amity
Interesting to read about the Gesamtkunstwerk principle: to combine all aspects of architecture, art, music, theatre and life. A total and universal artwork. And the author tells us that it will be life-altering.


Quoting Amity
Rachel. An important piece of the Gesamtkunstwerk. Part of the protagonist's sleeping mind. As we fall down this labyrinthine rabbit hole, we encounter jealousies, feelings of being small and lost.

Amity;829053:Rachel is the elusive ghost of Times Past. More nightmarish intrusions, lost and shocked in voyeurism.


Quoting Amity
After travelling through many doors, up and down stairs and lifts, rooms within rooms to find Rachel. Frustrated at every turn, still loving and caring for... a memory...unfinished business.


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Quoting Nils Loc
The meeting of the girl from his past is thin. We don't really get a taste of her or the narrator's character. Nothing results from the meeting.


The girl is Rachel. It was more than just a meeting. It's an obsession, and recurrent dream of unfulfilled past love. In dreams, weird and wonderful doors are open but some need to be closed. This is what happened in the Gesamtkunstwerk.

Within the main gate there is another door I notice, steel and grated as well, but with a handle. I try the handle and the door gives way.I turn back up the stairs intending to find Rachel and her friend and take them to what seems to be an exit. I change my mind halfway up. Calmly I descend again and open the small orange door and step outside. I feel the cool air on my warm skin, and I notice how much I rushed.


There is no more rush, there is calm. A closure.
[quote]I try to open the door out of curiosity, but it is shut. I walk away from the building proceeding along the track.


Still in the dream, a new road beckons.
The Gesamtkunstwerk was indeed a life-altering experience.








Tobias August 25, 2023 at 23:00 #833568
Quoting Amity
Quite the opposite for me. Rachel was central.


Yes she was.

Quoting Nils Loc
The meeting of the girl from his past is thin. We don't really get a taste of her or the narrator's character. Nothing results from the meeting.


As Nils Loc pointed out and you saw, central and not there. Perhaps that was her centrality. An absentness that makes itself felt. Actually, and I only think about it now, it idea is a bit like the scene from Sartre in Being and Nothingness, Pierre not being in the cafe. The person that is 'not being there' shows how consciousness is intentional. Perhaps, through her not there is what the narrator finally grasped and which displayed his own personality or character to him. He became self aware by realizing her not being there. Sometimes there are no incidents(@Caldwell) but that itself may be a substantial incident.

Quoting Amity
I found the scene and the experience of following the nightmare vivid, almost hallucinatory. Excellent descriptions.

It was, at least in the dream it was (@Benkei), very hallucinatory, even in the dream itself I wondered about hallucination.

Quoting hypericin
A dream of a museum that didn't just tell of war or display its artifacts, but actually gave the experience of war. The part that is most effective to me is how it transitions from a relatively pedestrian museum experience to chaos and disorientation. Very dreamlike, or surreally cinematic.


Quoting Amity
The girl is Rachel. It was more than just a meeting. It's an obsession, and recurrent dream of unfulfilled past love. In dreams, weird and wonderful doors are open but some need to be closed. This is what happened in the Gesamtkunstwerk.


Well described and well put. When writing I also wondered if the description of the room was a description of the mind of the narrator. If he is not inside his own mind. First the layers of ego and super ego, the orderly arranged world of images and of history. Then the Id, the non-historic, reptilian, immediately reacting part of the mind.

Quoting Amity
Still in the dream, a new road beckons.
The Gesamtkunstwerk was indeed a life-altering experience.


The end of the dream was in real life even more ambivalent. I woke up when I was still in front of the huge orange doors. I do think the end should be reworked. But the ending fits the mood of the dream best.

Anyway, that is my take on the story. The author becomes no more than a fellow reader after the story has been written.

Thanks to @Jamal for his careful reading and considerations for improvement. Thanks to @Noble Dust, @180 Proof, @Baden, a major thanks to @Amity of course :sparkle: and the others who commented. Thanks! :heart: