The objectively best chocolate bars

Jamal December 21, 2023 at 09:56 6950 views 54 comments
I was inspired by @TiredThinker's recent discussion about sponge candy to start a discussion about chocolate bars.

I've completed a decades-long survey and it turns out the best ones are the Daim bar from Sweden (which is or used to be called "Dime" in the UK), and the Step bar from Russia.

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Obviously most of you will be boycotting Russian chocolate bars at the moment, but surely some of you have had a Daim bar.

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javi2541997 December 21, 2023 at 11:38 #863637
Reply to Jamal I've never heard of 'Daim bar,' but chocolate mixed with nuts? Ew! Speaking objectively, a chocolate bar should only have just that: chocolate (and maybe some cookies).

The king of chocolate bars: Kit kat

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And a bit of recognition of the national product.

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Jamal December 21, 2023 at 11:41 #863638
Quoting javi2541997
but chocolate mixed with nuts? Ew!


You've been living under a rock if you're shocked and surprised by the concept of chocolate mixed with nuts! It's the classic chocolate combination. Ever heard of M&Ms?

You should be able to get a Daim bar at IKEA by the way.
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 11:43 #863639
Reply to javi2541997 I had Valor chocolate a few times when I was in Spain but was not blown away. I don't think I tried Huesitos. Kit-Kats are crap.
javi2541997 December 21, 2023 at 12:34 #863647
Reply to Jamal Ha! I knew you would say the kit kat were rubbish, but I decided to put it anyway. :razz:

Quoting Jamal
Ever heard of M&Ms?


Yes, and I was in its large store in London, and their taste is like savoring the harvest. Ew!
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 12:47 #863651
Quoting javi2541997
their taste is like savoring the harvest. Ew!


"Savouring the harvest" to me sounds deliciously evocatively delicious.

That makes me think of my Siberian tea, which isn't really tea. It looks like somebody went in to a forest and just swept up whatever was on the ground. Leaves, needles, cones, sticks, etc. I say it's like drinking a forest, and I mean it as a good thing. I savour the forest.

Before anyone thinks I'm one of those tea people, I'm not. Coffee is my drink, but I drink tea when I have infections of the upper respiratory system, as I do now.
Vera Mont December 21, 2023 at 14:49 #863674
universeness December 21, 2023 at 15:06 #863679
The Double Decker was one of my fav's but I also loved crunchies, bounty bars, mars bars, marathon bars, milky ways, yorkies and most other chocolate bars that have ever existed.

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Jamal December 21, 2023 at 16:21 #863700
Quoting universeness
The Double Decker was one of my fav's but I also loved crunchies, bounty bars, mars bars, marathon bars, milky ways, yorkies and most other chocolate bars that have ever existed.


I can't take your whisky chat seriously, knowing that you have so little chocolate bar discernment. Mars bars indeed.

Reply to Vera Mont My edgy opinion is that grown-up chocolate bars, rather like single malt whisky, are a triumph of marketing over substance, and that the confectionery aimed at kids is more inventive and tasty. I won't deny that Lindt is good chocolate, but it's like eating a raw ingredient.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 16:38 #863710
Quoting Jamal
I can't take your whisky chat seriously, knowing that you have so little chocolate bar discernment. Mars bars indeed.


That's alright, while you come to terms with that, this weekend, I will nibble happily on a mars bar, et al, in between sips of the wonderful two bottles of Ileach I Just bought.
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 16:43 #863713
Reply to universeness When I crack open my own on Christmas Eve I'll drink to you and your crappy chocolate bars.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 17:56 #863737
Reply to Jamal
Awe! That's so nice :flower: I forgot I had a big tub of 'Celebrations,' all the mini choc bars you could ever want! Including mini mars bars! Oh, I also bought a Caol ila 12, An Ardbeg Uigeadail and a Lagavulin 16.
Nils Loc December 21, 2023 at 17:59 #863738
I like the chocolate covered Payday currently. Peanuts and chocolate married together in harmony, followed by black coffee. Whowza! These candy companies need to make a luxury version where they lower the sweetness level a bit and increase the quality of the chocolate. Often, shelf peanut products taste a bit old.

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Jamal December 21, 2023 at 19:10 #863767
Reply to Nils Loc That’s my kind of chocolate bar. Looks a bit like two British ones, which happen to be among the best British chocolate bars: Lion Bar and Picnic. @universeness resides in the UK and yet didn’t mention them :chin:

The other best UK chocolate bar is the humble yet perfect Chomp.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 19:21 #863777
Reply to Nils Loc
Reply to Jamal
It's a bit like a 'picnic' in Scotland, but not quite.
Cant say if they would taste exactly the same as I've never tasted a payday bar.
The inside config of a picnic looks different to a payday bar but perhaps the same basic ingredients:
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Similarly with a lion bar, which has not got the big nuts of the pictured payday bar!
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Do you two need yer big nuts, with yer big chocolate bar?
javi2541997 December 21, 2023 at 19:24 #863782
I just remembered about this beauty. :cool:

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universeness December 21, 2023 at 19:26 #863784
Reply to Jamal
Don't forget the cheeky wee toffee crisp!
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How about a wee star bar or the old favourite Twix?
universeness December 21, 2023 at 19:31 #863787
Reply to Nils Loc Reply to Jamal
The payday bar reminds me more of the now defunct Rowntree's Nutty Bar from the 1970's, minus the covering chocolate.
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javi2541997 December 21, 2023 at 19:36 #863789
For folks and mates who want to take care of themselves.

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Jamal December 21, 2023 at 20:14 #863811
Quoting universeness
Twix


It’s a bad bar. Toffee Crisps are fine but not great.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 20:21 #863814
Reply to Jamal
Yeah, not mad on da Twixes myself, but I will indulge if that's all that's on offer!
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 20:25 #863816
Reply to universeness I would eat one to prevent death from starvation at the very last minute.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 20:26 #863817
Reply to Jamal
Not If I got to it first pal!
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 20:27 #863819
Reply to universeness I’d have eaten you first.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 20:30 #863821
Reply to Jamal
Well, mad cow disease would be yer reward, if you manage that one. I would do ma ninja moves and avoid your attack and get to the twix. F***** if I am eating you, ah don't want mad cow disease! Or even worse, I might start Russian about.
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 20:33 #863825
Reply to universeness Ok, you have the twix.
universeness December 21, 2023 at 20:35 #863826
Reply to Jamal
Hah! Ya surrender monkey! Ah might gie yi a wee bit aff the end! (flipping auto correct keeps messing wi ma slang man!)
praxis December 21, 2023 at 21:40 #863868
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Jamal December 21, 2023 at 22:45 #863924
Reply to praxis Sickly sweet with an unpleasant, sticky texture.
praxis December 21, 2023 at 23:25 #863970
Reply to Jamal

If you say so. I haven’t been able to go back to regular bars since trying these.
Jamal December 21, 2023 at 23:27 #863975
Reply to praxis You do you, of course, but I can’t help but think less of you.
praxis December 22, 2023 at 00:04 #864020
Reply to Jamal

Cadbury is an English brand, if I’m not mistaken. If so, I think that makes you some sort of cultural confectionery traitor. A person who’s allegiances are turned on a Dime.
Vera Mont December 22, 2023 at 00:14 #864028
Quoting Jamal
I won't deny that Lindt is good chocolate, but it's like eating a raw ingredient.


I think it's rather more subtle than that. What I like least about American popular sweets is that they put in too much salt and then too much extra sugar to hide it. Plus unnecessary stuff like cereal, nuts and raisins. The odd piece of hazelnut or almond is all tight, but they go three steps beyond that: they put in far too much and then surround the fillers with more sugar in the form of runny caramel or hard toffee, nougat or cookies, leaving little room for actual chocolate, which is what I like. I like cookies as cookies, nuts as nuts, nougat as nougat - but I prefer to choose how much of each and when.
Jamal December 22, 2023 at 00:15 #864030
Reply to praxis :grin:

True, my compatriots would hang me, if only they could catch me. But note that I’m mainly Scottish, which is not a form of English.

I do like some Cadbury’s chocolate. The Chomp, for example.

Incidentally and in case you don’t know, there’s some connection between Quakers and chocolate. Cadbury and a few other English chocolate makers like Rowntree and Fry were Quakers.
praxis December 22, 2023 at 03:19 #864098
Reply to Jamal

I’m not a caramel fan myself, but looking up the Chomp I see that Cadbury has a wide variety of treats. The stores only stock a few around here.

Interesting about the Quakers. Until now I only suspected a connection with oatmeal.
universeness December 22, 2023 at 09:40 #864138
Reply to Jamal
Do you remember the Cabana bar?
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They had a dark choc version that I remember well and was sorry to see discontinued. Couldn't have been popular enough amongst the 'chompers.'

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Jamal December 22, 2023 at 10:07 #864142
Reply to universeness That's interesting: I don't remember the Cabana at all, even though according to Wikipedia it was around in the 80s, which was my main chocolate bar decade. I don't like coconut or cherry flavour sweets, so I would have avoided it.
universeness December 22, 2023 at 11:11 #864160
Reply to Jamal
How about the 'Topic,' you must remember that one?
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Jamal December 22, 2023 at 11:21 #864162
Reply to universeness Yes, there was something about it I didn't like. Maybe in those days my nut love had not moved beyond peanuts out to hazelnuts, I don't know.
Hanover December 22, 2023 at 19:20 #864248
The best candy bar generally is the Snickers bar because it serves as an emergency ration, tiding one over until the next full meal. It's limitation of course is it's low melting point, but the plastic infused wrapper protects the bar proper so that it can squeezed directly into one's mouth if in the field.

The Milky Way bar, with its whipped creamy filling, lives up to its name as being a top contender in our solar system, although its lack of a fulfilling nutty crunch leaves it wanting. It therefore cannot be fully counted on in the way the Snickers bar can.

To take this in a whole nother direction as they say back home, we can consider the Million Dollar bar, a delicacy that at one time only titans of industry could afford due to its high, but wholly justified price. The rich caramel immediately will inject the most weary with a surge of energy that has been known to resurrect the hypoglycemic from their permanent slumbers. It is used in some countries just for that purpose in fact, where the dead are re-alived, albeit it in a zombie like state, where they soon begin donning motorcycle gear and begin to lurk about in search of brains.




TiredThinker December 23, 2023 at 02:35 #864326
Reply to javi2541997 Don't most chocolate bars have nuts or a waffer or something in them?
Vera Mont December 23, 2023 at 16:12 #864411
Reply to TiredThinker
Many do. Technically, they're candy bars, but if manufacturers put a thin layer of chocolate on a cookie, nut, toffee or nougat bar, it can pass in the minds of consumers for a chocolate bar. Sugar and peanuts are way cheaper than chocolate and incidentally, less exploitative to acquire.
Jamal December 24, 2023 at 11:54 #864618
Reply to Vera Mont Now that you've set things out, I understand the distinction you're making between chocolate bars and candy bars, and I apologize. You're right: I've been focusing on what you're calling candy bars. The trouble is, we don't use the word "candy" in the UK so anything covered in chocolate is a chocolate bar by default.
universeness December 24, 2023 at 15:38 #864666
Quoting Jamal
The trouble is, we don't use the word "candy" in the UK so anything covered in chocolate is a chocolate bar by default.


Well, we wouldn't call a club biscuit, a chocolate bar, even though it's covered in chocolate, or should we? I suppose a Kit Kat blurs them lines between chocolate biscuit and chocolate bar and I won't get into the big Jaffa cake debate! is a Jaffa cake really a biscuit or is it truly a cake? Certainly not a chocolate bar, agree?
Jamal December 24, 2023 at 17:35 #864686
Reply to universeness

You’ve opened a can of worms.
Nils Loc December 24, 2023 at 18:22 #864708
Quoting Vaskane
Then once the waxy sensation is gone eat from a bar like the one below, youll notice they dont leave a nasty wax coat of fats.


I think pure chocolate, with no added fats or other additives, can suffer from the ubiquitous waxy problem. I've had local farm single ingredient chocolate that is waxy. It's probably an issue of crystallization of the cocoa butter. Industry additives probably improve the mouth feel.
universeness December 24, 2023 at 18:23 #864709
Reply to Jamal
As long as they are not worms which are covered in chocolate. Would they be called chocolate worm bars?? Good Grief! Gaps in our knowledge, everywhere! :gasp:

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universeness December 24, 2023 at 18:51 #864720
Reply to Jamal
Just to add to the general miasma. How about this one.
We use the term 'chocolates' to refer to chocolate confection with various fillings and of various sizes and shapes, normally stored in a box formation, hence 'box of chocolates.'

As a business idea, (around 23 years ago) some of my S6 pupils, as part of a IDL (Inter-Departmental Learning) project, between the business dept and the computing dept, came up with the idea of merging a group of chosen chocolates, traditionally found in a box formation, into a bar or block style.
They proposed that their chosen chocolates would have different contents, be different sizes and shapes, but all be connected in a single bar/block style and be wrapped in the same way as a traditional 'bar' of square or rectangular sections. They soooooo struggled between calling it a bar or block or group or palette of chocolate. They ended up with naming it the zoob zoob chocolate palette. Whaddyafink? They got quite good grades for their project. But alas, I have not seen the zoob zoob chocolate palette in the shops, since I moved on to a new computing class of S6 in 2001.
L'éléphant December 25, 2023 at 00:47 #864770
I am not a sweets eater in general. I would get sick and vomit if I eat a lot of chocolates or cakes or other sweet stuff. My limit is the size of a bite size chocolate bar.
That said, the pictures here look delicious. And also, of course, chocolates have that ingredient flavanol that is good for health.

Chocolates also come in pink:

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Lionino January 03, 2024 at 21:27 #868466
Quoting javi2541997
I've never heard of 'Daim bar,' but chocolate mixed with nuts? Ew!


I upvote this comment.

I am not a chocolate guy, but have you guys and girls had dark chocolate with salt?
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It is very sexy.
universeness January 04, 2024 at 10:19 #868642
One of my fav dark choc confections is:
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Jamal January 04, 2024 at 10:55 #868646
universeness January 04, 2024 at 12:08 #868653
Reply to Jamal
I think I need some therapy!
In my head, when I viewed your response. I accused you of 'chocolate racism!' :rofl:
What does your philosophy tell you about that? Apart from any ad hominem towards me, currently manifesting in your Freudian Id. You don't like dark chocolate associated with old Jamaica and rum ....... chocolate racism :rofl:
I think I will just buy more of that chocolate to defy you. Oh wait, I still have 6 bars in my fridge!
Jamal January 04, 2024 at 14:57 #868703
Reply to universeness Never mind racism: I'm surprised you haven't brought theism into this debate.

I like dark chocolate, but Bournville is IMHO the old over-sweet sickly sticky disgusting kind of dark chocolate. Also I abhor rum.

Raisins I can handle.
universeness January 04, 2024 at 16:39 #868755
Quoting Jamal
Never mind racism: I'm surprised you haven't brought theism into this debate.

:cool: Do you associate 'dark' chocolate with the Christian devil/satan? Do you think Jesus would only have ever chosen to eat white chocolate? :joke:

Quoting Jamal
I like dark chocolate

Welcome back to atheism! We wondered what had happened to you. Some said you caught some kind of hanovarianism or something, is that true?

Quoting Jamal
the old over-sweet sickly sticky

Quoting Jamal
kind of dark chocolate.

:yum: :yum: but my type 2 diabetes screams noooooooooooo!

Quoting Jamal
I abhor rum

I once met a beautiful girl at a party and between the two of us, we drank one bottle of 'black heart rum,' and too many bottles of Sol with a slice of lime or lemon, scrunched into the bottle.
She eventually had her wild way with me. I like rum!

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Quoting Jamal
Raisins I can handle.

Covered in dark chocolate?