Move my thread back please

frank January 06, 2024 at 01:41 3300 views 16 comments
Please move my thread back, please.

Comments (16)

frank January 06, 2024 at 01:42 #869434
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/14904/quick-puzzle-where-the-wheel-meets-the-road
Mikie January 06, 2024 at 05:15 #869507
See site guidelines on posts:

https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/480/site-guidelines/p1

The lounge is the appropriate place for posts like the one moved.
frank January 06, 2024 at 05:27 #869512
Reply to Mikie
I disagree. I think it would be obvious to anyone with a little familiarity with philosophy of math that this question opens up in multiple directions, from contemplation of infinitesimals to set theory.

But wait, NOS said something about Trump. Let me go slam some brain cells together to answer him!
jgill January 06, 2024 at 05:30 #869515
Perhaps climate change should go to the Lounge as well. Keeping it the main page makes it more philosophy than science?
frank January 06, 2024 at 05:32 #869516
Quoting jgill
Perhaps climate change should go to the Lounge as well. Keeping it the main page makes it more philosophy than science?


And Israel? And Ukraine? And whatever the hell other than philosophy?
Mikie January 06, 2024 at 05:39 #869518
See How To Write An OP. Issue isn’t topic.
Jamal January 06, 2024 at 05:42 #869520
Reply to jgill

Discussions in the categories of Politics and Current Affairs, Humanities and Social Science, and Science and Technology, all live on the home page, belonging to Interesting stuff. Whether that’s good for a philosophy forum is debatable (generally I think it is, but the interminable and mostly very unphilosophical discussions like those on Ukraine or climate change seem to require some other way of organizing things); but I’m not sure if the Lounge is the right place for them.

Anyway, the OP under discussion here was moved because it was lazy and far too brief. OPs need to have more than “x says y, true or false”.
frank January 06, 2024 at 05:48 #869521
Quoting Jamal
Anyway, the OP under discussion here was moved because it was lazy and far too brief. OPs need to have more than “x says y, true or false”.


I think the appeal of the simple question is that it inspires one to think outside the box for a second. Instead of trying to figure Kant out, do some philosophy yourself. There isn't one right answer to the question. That's what was cool about it.

But I get it. It looked lazy to you.
wonderer1 January 06, 2024 at 14:55 #869609
Reply to frank

I posted a reply in your thread, but I didn't think to tag anyone, so...
fdrake January 06, 2024 at 16:08 #869636
It isn't philosophy or philosophy adjacent, and is a lazy OP. As for comparisons.

Discussion about Donald Trump often veers into the territory about what counts as just conduct for a state official. Which is philosophy. Say what you like about Donald Trump and his supporters, they make a lot of highly discussable and disruptive events.

Discussion about climate change often veers into the territory about what ought to be done about it, and appropriate attitudes towards eminent extinction - or denial of it. Which is philosophy.

Discussion about Israel/Palestine often veers into the territory of sovereignty, just wars, and the ethics of retaliation in conflict, all of those are philosophy. You can say something similar about Ukraine/Russia.

In of those cases, you couldn't allow the discussion of the philosophical issues without also allowing the factual ones.

In this case, there's a single sentence, there's no ability to assume common cultural touchstones, and underlying opinions people will have on the issue don't have philosophical content. It's a maths puzzle, with confusion around it, much like 0.999.. = 1.

This isn't to say you can't have philosophical discussions about maths problems - like 0.999... = 1 can get into potential vs actual infinity and whether the limit construction in analysis actually represents the concept of infinity. Which makes the OP less philosophy adjacent than 0.999... = 1, and so belongs as a curiosity in the lounge.
Lionino January 06, 2024 at 16:11 #869637
Quoting fdrake
This isn't to say you can't have philosophical discussions about maths problems - like 0.999... = 1 can get into potential vs actual infinity and whether the limit construction in analysis actually represents the concept of infinity. Which makes the OP less philosophy adjacent than 0.999... = 1


Have we ever had a thread about that? I think 0.9?=1 is quite the interesting topic in philosophy of mathematics.
fdrake January 06, 2024 at 16:13 #869640
Quoting Lionino
Have we ever had a thread about that? I think 0.9?=1 is quite the interesting topic in philosophy of mathematics.


I think it's been a few years. They'd crop up every week on the old forum. So I have a stubborn belief that they happen all the time.
Lionino January 06, 2024 at 16:15 #869642
Reply to fdrake Yeah, I remember it used to show up all the time back in 2015-2020 in other corners of the internet as well, now not so much.
I would gladly start one, but I would rather have someone with more knowledge on this specific topic do it instead so I don't make a one-liner thread. Maybe I will bring it to the shoutbox.
frank January 06, 2024 at 16:20 #869644
Quoting fdrake
potential vs actual infinity and whether the limit construction in analysis actually represents the concept of infinity.


Instantaneous velocity does touch directly on those issues, so Aristotle. :roll:

Plus you copied my use of "adjacent" you prick.
fdrake January 06, 2024 at 18:37 #869666
Reply to frank

You wanna bring up Aristotelian vs Galilean physics, do it in the OP!
frank January 06, 2024 at 20:22 #869715
Quoting fdrake
You wanna bring up Aristotelian vs Galilean physics, do it in the OP!


I honestly thought it was obvious from the question itself. Oh well.