Suggestion: TPF Conference via AVL

AmadeusD January 18, 2024 at 03:17 4550 views 36 comments
Suggestion: We have a TPF conference for any interested via AVL (platform isn't a big deal, imo. FT, Skype, Teams... whatever works for the most of who is interested).

I, for one, very much enjoy this move when it comes to online communities and there are plenty of contributors I would very much enjoy have a real-time discussion with. I find them much more palatable when contentious things get said, and it lends some humanity to the whole project of talking to other apes about interesting or important things.

I am happy to organise and set-up the event, if people do have any interest - bearing in mind, some will need to bite the bullet of being up and aware at an unGodly hour, i'm sure.

What say ye, Forum Goers?

Postscript: If this has been suggested and either failed, or been rejected in the past, please forgive and delete.

Comments (36)

Moliere January 18, 2024 at 22:33 #873544
I'm interested.

My habits are https://discord.com/ based, and I think it might be easier to facilitate with that than Teams. Teams is good for organized schedules, such as one has for work, but not so good for less-organized schedules -- such as organizing conversations across the world among some interested creatures who know this isn't their first priority (or maybe wish it werent?)

Discord, though, is good for pop-ins: we could set the conference from one time to another, some odd weekend or week-long period, and while we all have other things to take care of we could pop in and out as we are able.
AmadeusD January 18, 2024 at 23:34 #873567
Reply to Moliere That seems a good structure. Happy for that to be the go, if anyone else is interested! Seems perhaps not at this stage though :groan:
Moliere January 20, 2024 at 15:08 #873935
Quoting Outlander
Half facetiousness aside, why?


Funzies. That's about it.

Which, to be fair, is a good reason to do things among us creatures.
Sir2u January 20, 2024 at 16:55 #873950
Quoting AmadeusD
Would you like to have The Philosophy Forum AVL conference?


It might be an interesting thing to do, getting to talk to people from around the world face to face.

I think your mistake here was including the option for NO in the poll. If they are not interested why should they be allowed a say in the activities.
jgill January 21, 2024 at 05:30 #874071
Quoting AmadeusD
I’m intending normal human interaction


But none of us looks as good as you, all spiffed up in shirt, tie and vest. Most of us look like Lionino's avatar with a little hair. :gasp:
AmadeusD January 21, 2024 at 19:51 #874212
Quoting Sir2u
I think your mistake here was including the option for NO in the poll. If they are not interested why should they be allowed a say in the activities


Point was more that if four people are interested, and 25 are not, perhaps 'the forum has spoken' and we must remain but abstract avatars to one another :) That said, I'm happy to just take the four and have the damn conference - if that's what you're getting at :)

Quoting jgill
But none of us looks as good as you, all spiffed up in shirt, tie and vest. Most of us look like Lionino's avatar with a little hair. :gasp:


:yikes: Haha, well I appreciate that. I figured it would be a negative, having me appear pretentious and likely not that sensible haha. Quoting Moliere
Funzies. That's about it.

Which, to be fair, is a good reason to do things among us creatures.


Yeah, that's about it. Funzies. Also, as someone who is definitely ADHD, and my wife suspects on the spectrum (my dad is), this type of thing is a really neat way for me to interact with like minded people without risking too much embarrassment. You all already know I'm basically stupid :lol:
Hanover January 21, 2024 at 21:02 #874243
Reply to AmadeusD I'd be in favor of it. It's always good to put names with faces.

If you set it up, try to accommodate US Eastern time so it'll be easiest for me.
AmadeusD January 22, 2024 at 00:16 #874319
Reply to Hanover I shall do my best! Perhaps there will another poll about what time it would be (i'd take one timezone, pick a time, list what that is in some other timezones for each option).
Sir2u January 22, 2024 at 00:23 #874323
Quoting AmadeusD
Point was more that if four people are interested, and 25 are not, perhaps 'the forum has spoken' and we must remain but abstract avatars to one another :) That said, I'm happy to just take the four and have the damn conference - if that's what you're getting at :)


I am not sorry to say that I don't give a shit about the naysayers. If it is something that will not have any affect on them why should they waste their time trying to stop others doing it?

If they are not interested, they can either just ignore it or be polite and say no thanks.

Let us know the setup and I will see what I can do to join in.

AmadeusD January 22, 2024 at 19:30 #874580
Looks like it's going down. I think I'll be aiming for something like 2 weeks from now - sometime through the first week (likely weekend) in February. Let me know days in that area you are all available/would bother. I'm happy to take the hit on timezone as i'm likely the furthest away from most.

It seems Discord is the only platform which has been put forward.

Is everyone happy with that, or is there a better platform more are apt to use?
Moliere January 24, 2024 at 01:42 #875120
Reply to AmadeusD

If anyone has questions about how to make that work I can field them. PM or otherwise.

But if someone that voted yes has a preference for something else I'm fine with going with that and learning. (meaning Discord, as a talking app that's easy to organize around)
AmadeusD January 24, 2024 at 01:57 #875127
Reply to Moliere I may need a hand - I'll have a muck around this evening (its 3pm rn) and get back with whether I need your help :) I do already have Discord/an account so hopefully wont be awfully hard.
jgill January 27, 2024 at 21:01 #876036
Quoting Vaskane
?jgill
Speak for your self! ^_^


OK, I admit, your movie star looks are dazzling. :roll:
Rob J Kennedy January 29, 2024 at 10:30 #876280
I ain’t bright, what’s AVL?
Jamal January 30, 2024 at 07:36 #876449
Reply to Rob J Kennedy

My guess is audio visual link. Video calls and video-conferencing, basically.
AmadeusD January 30, 2024 at 19:35 #876553
Reply to Jamal Reply to Rob J Kennedy
Yep, Audio Visual Link.

I've been slack, too, so this isnt' set up but I promise I will get to it and drop the deets in here shortly. I have not forgotten!!
Hanover February 03, 2024 at 12:23 #877653
All you need is a Zoom link. It'll take 3 seconds to create.
AmadeusD February 04, 2024 at 23:55 #878012
Reply to Hanover I've been told to use Discord, thus far. I've also been working 16 hr days :P
Moliere February 06, 2024 at 14:51 #878522
Reply to AmadeusD FWIW, I'm fine with Zoom too. That'd work just fine by me.
AmadeusD March 06, 2024 at 01:17 #885674
Turns out i am the typical overproductive 30-something.

I WILL organise this. I'll do it by setting a meeting today NZ time, and you guys can argue over the timing.
AmadeusD March 06, 2024 at 07:39 #885726
Amadeus Diamond is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Join Zoom Meeting
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/76697347792?pwd=T8DlpQnx38S0hSsRGHMeWPi9ckrNHc.1

Meeting ID: 766 9734 7792
Passcode: 45Tras


Boom
Moliere March 09, 2024 at 03:42 #886480
Reply to AmadeusD Cool. I'll join in 2 weeks then when I can.
Hanover March 18, 2024 at 20:56 #889037
Reply to AmadeusD What's the date of the meeting?
AmadeusD March 18, 2024 at 21:02 #889040
Saturday, 23 March.

I have it set for 10am NZD which is
5pm Friday EST
2pm Friday WST
9pm GMT


I hope this allows for others to join. If not, I am more than open to other times. Just wanted something solid in place that we can work with.
Moliere March 22, 2024 at 21:21 #890068
I'm a little late but I hopped on.
jgill March 25, 2024 at 01:03 #890622
What happened?
Moliere March 25, 2024 at 02:19 #890639
Reply to jgill @AmadeusD confirmed w/ me that he hopped on early and left some 30 minutes in, and I joined about 30 minutes late and nothing was going on.

I'm down for a retry. The time was fine for me, but if there are other times that work internationally then I'm down for that too -- it was just a first attempt, but not the last.
Moliere March 26, 2024 at 22:55 #891288
A thought -- perhaps we should do a Saturday-to-Sunday timeslot rather than a Friday-to-Saturday timeslot.
AmadeusD April 02, 2024 at 02:23 #893063
Reply to Moliere I'm with it!

If you guys can throw out a date, I'll set another one up and hang out for longer.
Moliere April 02, 2024 at 11:42 #893132
From the 6th--7th ? To use your previous format:

Sunday, 06 April

[s]I have it set for[/s] 10am NZD which is
5pm Saturday EST
2pm Saturday WST
9pm GMT
AmadeusD April 02, 2024 at 19:17 #893235
Reply to Moliere I'm happy with that. Couple of hours either side works for me too!
Moliere April 02, 2024 at 19:20 #893239
Reply to AmadeusD Same, especially cuz it's the weekend.

I just kept the first guess cuz no one else said it was bad, meaning anyone interested is good to go :)
Moliere April 06, 2024 at 19:40 #894500
Reply to AmadeusD
https://us05web.zoom.us/j/82479111508?pwd=5DIZCYRP7m2BSDHgj6ZK4DR2amD8xK.1

Meeting ID: 824 7911 1508
Passcode: 7RrQY2

Didn't see anything so I thought I'd make a link.
Moliere April 06, 2024 at 20:25 #894507
I started the meeting early -- playing games until I hear someone hop on.
Moliere April 06, 2024 at 22:32 #894540
OK no shows so I'm shutting it down now.

Probably gotta get more agreement on times and such to make it happen since we've just been picking times and nada.
Moliere April 17, 2024 at 00:17 #897084
Maybe, instead of a general "let's see who shows up" we could do something more limited and focused.

That'd actually be someting like Socrates' Cafe as we used to run it -- we'd try to come up with a question beforehand that seemed philosophical-ish but attractive, and then use that as a means to teach people philosophy through doing it together.

That's probably more fun than just saying "uhhh OK So what's up, huh?"

Here I think we're small enough, especially in terms of willing participants, we could probably even broach some fairly controversial topics just to generate interest. Existence of God, personhood, just war.... not sure exactly.

Finding the right topic would be the key, though, to having people actually participate.

. . .

Maybe even . . . in/direct realism. *gulp*