Objective News Viewership.

Perhaps you could provide an example. So far, your contempt emits heat but no light.

Quoting Steven P Clum

Anyone out there afraid to try and objectively view Fox News?

I don't watch the Fox commentators, but I do watch Bret Baier. The show is certainly tilted to the right, but overall it seems fair in reporting the news of the day.

Are there any news networks that are not tilted to the right or left?

Quoting Steven P Clum

I have found that Fox shows the inconvenient and or irrefutable halves of truths that the left leaning networks wont. Anyone out there afraid to try and objectively view Fox News?

How do you know they are irrefutable?

But with your bigger point about balance, every show should have all sides represented when presenting a case. Trump has made this immensely harder, however, as he himself cannot debate a point to save his life- he can only stoke ire. It should be an unspoken rule for news outlets to present the sides, and have the audience judge for themselves. I know for the US, there used to be something in broadcasting (not newspapers) called "The Fairness Doctrine" which mandated that for any political issue, both sides had to have at least some representation on any news programming. That was lifted as being against First Amendment rights in the late 80s and paved the way for various conservative talk shows (think Rush Limbaugh), which paved the way for various conservative-only news, which then spawned various (very) left-leaning news (rather than moderately left leaning which used to be the case with general broadcast news on the major stations).

Perhaps @BC has more to say on the Fairness Doctrine and its applications?

Begin to at least cast a wider net and be aware of biases and political leanings. This OP borders on, or is downright propaganda in its low quality.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart



We can draw from different sources for bias checking, but these are the most wide spread for now. For scientific rigor around bias checking there are machine learning techniques developed; but I'm not sure if any are in use at this time. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362614797_Machine-learning_media_bias

Reply to Paine To what extent, if any, have you been informed of Biden's ineptitude and lies? His stumbling and bumbling? Do the website search on each website. See what you come up with. I'd post the links, however, I am too new to this forum for such credentials. Oh, and look for O'bama's speech where he referred to the Marines as Corpsman several times while pronouncing it phonetically. How'd he get into Harvard? Go ahead, Google it. See which news agencies covered it, and which ones didn't. Then go check out Vice President Dan Quayle Under President Bush misspelling the word "potato." He added an "e." Not incidentally, potato was historically spelled with an "e" until the mid twentieth century. All of the networks made much hay of it. Now let me guess, I'll get a bunch of responses that will minimize the above points. Or, maybe make their best defense an erroneous offense.

Quoting Steven P Clum

To what extent, if any, have you been informed of Biden's ineptitude and lies? His stumbling and bumbling? Do the website search on each website. See what you come up with. I'd post the links, however, I am too new to this forum for such credentials. Oh, and look for O'bama's speech where he referred to the Marines as Corpsman several times while pronouncing it phonetically. How'd he get into Harvard? Go ahead, Google it. See which news agencies covered it, and which ones didn't. Then go check out Vice President Dan Quayle Under President Bush misspelling the word "potato." He added an "e." Not incidentally, potato was historically spelled with an "e" until the mid twentieth century. All of the networks made much hay of it. Now let me guess, I'll get a bunch of responses that will minimize the above points. Or, maybe make their best defense an erroneous offense.

You build a mighty straw man here. Since when did misspeaking or misspelling a word or sentence make someone inept or deceitful?

Rather, if you are interested in debating the character of someone who doesn't mind tearing apart a 247 year old democracy and building a cult of personality and someone who doesn't, I'd be happy to debate that, but that is moving away from your OP, which is that one must ensure to balance ones news sources to get multiple views.

Quoting Steven P Clum

I have found that Fox shows the inconvenient and or irrefutable halves of truths that the left leaning networks wont. Anyone out there afraid to try and objectively view Fox News?

Fox News had to pay an almost million dollar fine for propagating lies, and there's an even bigger lawsuit in the pipeline. They have no interest in truth, only in in dollars.

Quoting Steven P Clum

His stumbling and bumbling? Do the website search on each website.

US economy surprises with faster than expected growth

Falling inflation, rising growth give U.S. the world’s best recovery

By the Numbers: U.S. Economy Grows Faster than Expected for Year and Final Quarter of 2023

Trump claims credit for record-high stock market under Biden

This is a fun thread.

Reply to schopenhauer1 As regards the reference to misspeaking and misspelling, I was simply emphasizing the double standard and selective reporting associated with certain news networks. As for Biden, He's done and said some absolutely bat sh_t crazy stuff. Tell me...do you even know that the Trump/Russia Collusion thing Was a hoax? Do you know that the FBI/Facebook conspired prior to the last Presidential election to portray Hunter's laptop contents as Russian disinformation to pad Joe's poll numbers? Proven. Oh...you'll find it on Fox News. The Congressional Hearings etc. Don't even get me started with the whole Covid-19 debacle and how the DNC profited from their mandates.

I give it a day

Most times I've witnessed an event first hand and then watched it hours later on the news the first hand experience and the news reporting seem at odds. Mostly by over emphasis or omissions the news reporting is usually pushing an agenda. Or sometimes a reporter who is dispatched can't get up to speed fast enough to understand what the locals would know. Maybe a lot is filtered out for legal reasons.

I looked at journalism law a long time ago and it really is restrictive on what can be reported, what sources can be used, what subject matter can be covered and so on. And whoever is paying the bills gets to pick and edit the stories.

Have you ever noticed how they say 'stay tuned for updates' but never do?

Reply to bert1
yep

MAGA troll alert. Reported accordingly.

Reply to Steven P Clum

Quoting Steven P Clum

I tune into Fox, Huffington Post, Breitbart, realclearpolitics, and NBC news throughout the day in an effort to garner a mean understanding of what is going on in the world

If I had to watch any news outlet throughout the day I’d end up shooting myself. I grit my teeth just to glance at the headlines online for a couple of minutes. I dont think being a news junkie today is good for anyone’s mental health. It’s designed not to inform but to provide a 24 hour source of sensationalistic entertainment, and all this is doing to viewers is instilling hostility, resentment and contempt (kind of like the vibe I’m getting from the OP).

Reply to Joshs :up:

Reply to Joshs Denial is a defense mechanism.

Reply to Steven P Clum
Are you familiar with Factcheck.org or Politifact?
If so do you have an opinion on these organizations?

Reply to Mark Nyquist

Quoting Mark Nyquist

?Steven P Clum
Are you familiar with Factcheck.org or Politifact?
If so do you have an opinion on these organizations?

I can’t believe you’re seriously asking him this.

Reply to Joshs
I'd like your opinion too. Or anyone's.

Factcheck.org is out of the Annenberg school, University of Pennsylvania....from memory.

Reply to Mark Nyquist

Quoting Mark Nyquist

I'd like your opinion too. Or anyone's.

Fact check.org is out of the Annenberg school, University of Pennsylvania....from memory.

Well, since I’m not partial to conspiracy theories and I dont believe in the Deep State, I think they’re fine. But fyi, mentioning a major U.S. university in conjunction with a news source is a non-starter for a Trump supporter.

Reply to Joshs
I think Trump went to the University of Pennsylvania maybe Wharton School of Business. .

Reply to Mark Nyquist Quoting Mark Nyquist

?Joshs
I think Trump went to the University of Pennsylvania maybe Wharton School of Business. .

Sure did. 55 years ago. What do you think he would say about the faculty there now?

“We spend more money on higher education than any other country—and yet they’re turning our students into communists and terrorist sympathizers of many, many different dimensions,”

Quoting Steven P Clum

Tell me...do you even know that the Trump/Russia Collusion thing Was a hoax?

That idea has been argued extensively by a fellow traveler of yours here. You should get together for some scenes.

Presenting the idea as an established fact is not a good advertisement for the objectivity you called out for in the beginning.

Reply to Joshs
Since he's a former president he would actually know quit a lot that he couldn't tell.

Reply to Mark Nyquist Quoting Mark Nyquist

?Joshs
Since he's a former president he would actually know quit a lot that he couldn't tell.

A very wise man, indeed

Reply to Joshs
What I was thinking about is that former presidents (both sides) know some things and formats like Factcheck.org might be attempts to set some public limits on debate.

Quoting Steven P Clum

Anyone out there afraid to try and objectively view Fox News?

Well you, it seems, for starters.


Ever read Al Jazeera?

Quoting Banno

Ever read Al Jazeera?

Can’t be serious can you?

Reply to AmadeusD Yep.

Reply to Mark Nyquist I've used those resources. I've used Media Matters as well.

Reply to Banno "It seems." Sounds like smarmy conjecture from someone too afraid to even watch Fox. You march a mean lock-step, comrade!! Oh, and I've read enough of Al-Jazeera to know that they are anti-America. Are you living here in your safe space with all of your rights and liberties as a malcontent. Fortunately, you are free to move to the Middle East. Bring along all of that rainbow swag and see how that works out for you.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/watch-nypd-officers-attacked-surveillance-video-near-times-square-by-migrants-later-freed-without-bail
Here's some hot-off-the-press Fox news. NY Sanctuary City now inundated with illegals assured of getting their money's worth from the cartel fees to smuggle them in because they can't be either deported or arrested. Here's video of a group of illegals attacking cops. They are arrested, then release. That's news! Oh...I can't seem to find it on any of your mainstream media outlets. No independents alleging its a lie. Hmmm. Oh, but you've been indoctrinated to believe that all cops are bad and worthy of abuse.

Reply to Banno I guess I shouldn't be surprised - But i am. I wouldn't think someone like yourself would put stock in a culturally, geographically biased outlet with a Controversies Wiki page longer than it's actual page (that might be jest - but its not far off).

Reply to Steven P Clum Bye.

Reply to Christoffer Oh, yes, CNN, "simple fact reporting".

In the meanwhile, Biden does not have dementia.