Are posts on this forum, public information?

Shawn May 09, 2024 at 01:59 4100 views 15 comments
Sorry to bother the mods or administrators; but, ever since ChatGPT came out I heard whispers that forum databases are being sold. So, the information from forum databases can be utilized for large data training models from what I minutely understand.

Is this forum safe from this new trend?

Thanks.

Comments (15)

Shawn May 09, 2024 at 02:16 #902575
I tried reading the terms of service (TOS) at the left hand side of the site, and from what I understand PlushForums and the location of this server is located in Ireland. So, from what I understand Irish laws are pretty strict about the content of this forum.

The only reason I bring this up is because there's another forum that harvests posts of users for profit (which I wont identify). Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.

Sorry for the hassle for asking this.
Vera Mont May 09, 2024 at 03:04 #902585
Quoting Shawn
Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.

To whom? What for? I've never heard of this before. If you know more, please tell.
Banno May 09, 2024 at 03:29 #902587
Your immortal soul is indentured to @Jamal for eternity on posting.
Vera Mont May 09, 2024 at 03:35 #902589
Reply to Banno
that's fine, as long as he's not making a profit.
Shawn May 09, 2024 at 03:41 #902590
Reply to Vera Mont

All I can say is that I doubt it's happening here. Servers located in the US for forums can do this as much as they want...

Wayfarer May 09, 2024 at 07:51 #902617
Quoting Shawn
Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.


Really? Where do I sell?

In any case, once it's posted, it's published, to all intents and purposes, in that anyone can read the posts here, even if only registered members can enter them.
Michael May 09, 2024 at 08:41 #902622
Well, this is a publicly visible forum so nothing stops ChatGPT from visiting the website and copying what shows on the page.

It's possible to stop this by creating a robots.txt file that tells ChatGPT that it's not allowed to visit, but PlushForums doesn't provide such a file.

As for the raw database, the PlushForums FAQ says "we do not sell or share your data with any third parties."
Jamal May 09, 2024 at 08:48 #902623
What @Michael said.
Metaphysician Undercover May 09, 2024 at 09:45 #902630
My posts are invaluable... so good luck trying to get money for them.
RogueAI May 09, 2024 at 13:42 #902654
I like the idea I'm molding future versions of Ai's. Maybe idealism will get a boost.
Vera Mont May 09, 2024 at 15:02 #902667
And they'll write better stories.
javi2541997 May 09, 2024 at 18:56 #902715
I would feel very ashamed of myself if ChatGPT had access to read my posts with poor grammatical skills.
Ludwig V May 12, 2024 at 12:14 #903315
Quoting javi2541997
I would feel very ashamed of myself if ChatGPT had access to read my posts with poor grammatical skills.


It has occurred to me to wonder why anyone trains these machines on text that has not been vetted for grammatical and other errors. (My bugbear is typos). The results could be, let's say, interesting.

Just another reason for treating their output with immense caution.
Christoffer June 14, 2024 at 10:32 #910175
Quoting Michael
Well, this is a publicly visible forum so nothing stops ChatGPT from visiting the website and copying what shows on the page.

It's possible to stop this by creating a robots.txt file that tells ChatGPT that it's not allowed to visit, but PlushForums doesn't provide such a file.

As for the raw database, the PlushForums FAQ says "we do not sell or share your data with any third parties."


A kind of backdoor way into the collective body of work of philosophy; you get your ideas actually swooped up to be part of something larger. That's not all doom and gloom. I easily take pride in if my ideas are worth spreading, regardless of being credited or not. Won't matter in a hundred years anyway, only the ideas will remain, and if mine contribute to that body of knowledge then I won't just die off after only having been a decade going resource-soaking methane-leaking meatbag.

But would be nice if GPT get its quotation algorithm working. It's basically the only requirement to bypass the problems with accidental plagiarism and would credit people if ideas from here spread into the usage with AI systems.
mcdoodle June 22, 2024 at 11:13 #911502
Reply to Shawn It seems there has been large-scale bypassing of the constraints placed on scraping material by using robots.txt.

Reuters link here.