Best canvass for experience

Gingethinkerrr June 14, 2024 at 20:06 1200 views 5 comments
Hi again,

I must admit I am out of my league in this forum and struggle to even tread water in the shallows with the deep and broad responses posted here.

But I do like the opportunity to pose the questions that flit through my average intellect.

So as a humanitarian I do not like, want or wish any kind of pain on my fellow human beings.

A thought that ran through my mind was what do we think is the best long term future for consciousness?

Human experience - with emotional interpretation and our fragile understanding of creation

Or

AI recordable experience to fully and in real time comprehension of the scientific minutiae of all variables?? To be able to compare.

Given the flawed unpredictability of biological or the cold mass fact based logic we imagine AI will give....

Which is the better suited to endure to the end of existence??


Comments (5)

T Clark June 15, 2024 at 17:08 #910367
Quoting Gingethinkerrr
what do we think is the best long term future for consciousness?


I think humans evolved to be acting, problem solving creatures. I guess all living organisms have. That is at the center of our nature. Without that, we have no reason to live. Whatever gets uploaded into a computer wouldn't be human anymore. Without any reason to do anything, I think we'd all sit around doing nothing till we decided to delete ourselves.
Hanover June 15, 2024 at 17:39 #910372
Quoting T Clark
I think humans evolved to be acting, problem solving creatures. I guess all living organisms have.

Consider though, a tree.
T Clark June 15, 2024 at 17:41 #910373
Quoting Hanover
Consider though, a tree.


Thank you. Great example.
Hanover June 15, 2024 at 20:05 #910394
Quoting T Clark
Thank you. Great example.


Tnx!
Tom Storm June 15, 2024 at 23:53 #910454
Reply to Gingethinkerrr I'm not sure what your question is.

Quoting Gingethinkerrr
A thought that ran through my mind was what do we think is the best long term future for consciousness?


Can you clarify what you mean here?

Are you talking about the future of human beings per say, or is there something about consciousness you are interested in? Perhaps it would help if you described a particular situation so that this is clarified.

Quoting Gingethinkerrr
Human experience - with emotional interpretation and our fragile understanding of creation


I don't like the word 'creation' as it implies a creator. I see no evidence of a creator. I would probably talk about our fragile understand and awareness. Or is creation/creator important to your question?

Quoting Gingethinkerrr
Which is the better suited to endure to the end of existence??


What do you mean here? What does 'better suited' look like and what 'end of existence' are you imagining? The end of humans on earth (which is quite different to the end of existence) or do you mean something more totalising?

My own view is that humans might be wiped out (climate, disease, war). But the world and the universe is likely to go on. AI, I have no profound thoughts on, so far it's just a tool we've built and we don't really know if it will survive us.