Quantum ethology and its philosophical aspects

Linkey July 15, 2024 at 13:52 1075 views 5 comments
The science is now able to combine the quantum mechanics with the game theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHSH_inequality#CHSH_game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_pseudo-telepathy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_game_theory

These refs are perfect; and if the quantum mechanics can be united with the game theory, this means that our views in the field of philosophy must be reconsidered.
I mean, that the ethology (a combination of the game theory with the theory of evolution) gives the answers to the questions about the nature of Good and Evil. Here are these answers in brief:

1) The altruism and the selfishness appear in situations with the games with non-zero sums;
2) The Good is altruism, the Evil is selfishness. More exactly, the Evil is a behavior that is beneficial for the one who commits it, and disadvantageous for others;
3) For each person it is beneficial to behave selfishly, but when everybody in the population behaves selfishly, this population suffers from that;
4) The altruism is unstable; this means, that if some people in the population behave selfishly, they live better than others and correspondingly they spread their genes or memes more efficiently, and their number increases;
5) The altruism can be supported by group selection together with the Simpson's paradox, but this requires certain conditions;
6) A more common way of suppressing the selfishness is the social contract ("Leviathan"); however this way has its own faults, in particular a new type of Evil can occur with it - authoritarian state. This is explained by the fact that the people who are elected to supress the egoists are egoists themselves.

How these principles should be reconsidered for the world where quantum effects play a big role?

Comments (5)

Lionino July 15, 2024 at 13:59 #917659
How many quantum numbers are there to describe an electron orbiting around an atomic nucleus?
Linkey October 07, 2024 at 02:35 #937304
Roger Penrose has suggested that quantum effects are working in the nervous system of living organisms. Currently there is some experimental evidence in favour of this hypothesis:


https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2399-6528/ac94be

https://www.mdpi.com/2624-960X/3/1/6

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2018.0640

https://opg.optica.org/opn/abstract.cfm?uri=opn-30-4-42


If this is true, then we can assume that there is quantum entanglement between the brains of related individuals in nature; and then it is easy to assume that the evolution has "invented" quantum pseudo-telepathy which helps animals to survive and reproduce. Then a new science is needed to study this - quantum ethology. Has anyone proposed it?
T Clark October 07, 2024 at 20:01 #937548
Quoting Linkey
ethology (a combination of the game theory with the theory of evolution)


Ethology is the study of animal behavior.

Quoting Linkey
Roger Penrose has suggested that quantum effects are working in the nervous system of living organisms. Currently there is some experimental evidence in favour of this hypothesis:


I took a quick look at your linked articles. Most of them talk about quantum biology in general with only a brief discussion of effects on cognition. They point out that potential quantum mental effects are speculative and controversial. Here is a quote from one of them:

Quoting Quantum Biology: An Update and Perspective
At first sight, it does seem unlikely that delicate quantum effects, such as coherence, tunnelling, entanglement or spin could play significant roles in a warm, wet, brain. However, the Nobel Prize winning UK mathematician, Roger Penrose, together with the American anaesthetist, Stuart Hameroff, made probably the most audacious claim for quantum biology in recent years in their proposal that quantum coherence in neuronal microtubules is capable of quantum computing and is the substrate for consciousness [371,372]. This proposal has generated a great deal of discussion and criticism [4], and it is fair to say that it has not received significant support in either the physics or neuroscience community and so will not be considered further in this review.


Quoting Linkey
If this is true, then we can assume that there is quantum entanglement between the brains of related individuals in nature;


By what logic can we make that inference?
jgill October 07, 2024 at 20:31 #937569
Quoting Linkey
If this is true, then we can assume that there is quantum entanglement between the brains of related individuals in nature


A big jump in credulity. But OK for the Lounge I suppose.
Linkey October 28, 2024 at 12:19 #942620
If my hypothesys is true, this have a lot of applications.
Have you heard the word "Egregore"? This is something like a mind in the collective unconscious; we have the Christianic egregore, Comminust ergerore, etc. From my point of view, an egregore is an analouge of a state of a social network, which uses the quantum entanglement instead of common ways of communications (more exactly, a combination of both). In other words, an egregore is a pseudostate or pseudosocnetwork in the same meaning as the pseudotelepathy I mentioned above.
The concept of egregores can be of a great practical use for political science, because it explains a lot of problems in the Western world (the explanation is that the Western democracy is illusory to a significant extent).