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Recently, I was warned about posting a piece of news from a mainstream journal, because it violates "discrimination guidelines". A single statement saying "you can't be racist or sexist" is not a guideline about what news one may cover or not. I was also informed that this post, displaying a full-blown female butt, is not NSFW. NSFW stands for non safe for work, obviously an exposed female butt is NSFW.
All the while, there are people in the Climate Change and Donald Trump threads, including mods, calling for the death of people and terrorism (not just implying it). One of the ex-mods freely gives horrible insults to people and gets away with it, without ever having his posts removed.
Obviously, this is not a serious place, if the few serious people here had any doubt about that.
All the while, there are people in the Climate Change and Donald Trump threads, including mods, calling for the death of people and terrorism (not just implying it). One of the ex-mods freely gives horrible insults to people and gets away with it, without ever having his posts removed.
Obviously, this is not a serious place, if the few serious people here had any doubt about that.
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The article seems unobjectionable to me. In my opinion TPF has an ideological lean, especially when it comes to politics. Conservatives must tread with care in a progressive environment, especially if they wish to enter into political argument. The problems posed by immigration is one of those topics that is largely off-limits as far as progressives are concerned. That said, I think TPF is more open-minded than most progressive spaces.
That article is unobjectionable.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/918129
The posted image is not from that article. It's from Remix news:
https://rmx.news/article/great-replacement-comes-to-ireland-280-migrants-planned-for-small-town-of-165/
The latter article is the one with the white supremacist conspiracy headline. Not the Irish Independent.
The article linked is unobjectionable because it is from the Irish Independent. The headline jpeg is from a right wing news site funded by neofascists and the headline "The Great Replacement" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement is a racist conspiracy theory.
Lionino masked the racist jpeg with a link to a different article.
Edit: Cross-posted
Ah, okay. I didn't realize that the jpeg was from a different article or website. My bad.
RMX.news is a mainstream journal? I... don't think so.
I also don't think just posting a picture and a link to an article is good enough for a discussion forum. If I were you, I'd have done osmething more like this:
A. NOT post a picture of some other article
B. Start with an introductory paragraph like "I read this article recently about an issue some Irish people are concerned with"
C. THEN link the article
D. THEN write a paragraph or two on my thoughts on the issue.
You obviously skipped steps A, B and D
Just posting a picture and a link isn't suitable for an online philosophy discussion forum, it's more suitable for facebook. I'm sure you can post content of that caliber to your hearts content on facebook, I don't blame the mods for having a higher expectation of you here.
No worries. It's misleading, and on @Lionino's head.
I'm guessing you weren't supposed to seeing as Lionino is still insisting he only posted something from a "mainstream journal".
To be clear, we probably wouldn't mod for poor citation practices so long as the posts are made in good faith, @Lionino is getting warned here for using a white supremacist conspiracy factually and presenting it in a manner as if it's from a mainstream news source. On top of other comments we've dealt with prior.
That is the act of a bad faith actor who is trying to game this forum and undermine/repurpose it.
Let's just hope it's a media literacy slip up eh?
Being Irish, I'm definitely not happy with him representing one of our major news outlets as a purveyor of racist trash, but I'll listen to any attempt at an explanation in any case.
I think if someone wants to talk about the philosophy of white supremacy, even support it, then sure, but talk about it like a fucking philosopher, not like a dementia-laden geriatric who just discovered the internet.
These idiots, I think, are making a concerted effort to flood the internet with their bullshit, to muddy the information landscape. They post memes and links and are incredibly light on ideas and deep arguments.
Free speech also entails letting people curate and manage their own platforms, even if they resort to censorship. Though censorship is anti-philosophy, and free speech has been a common ideal from Socrates on forward, the right to set ones own rules regarding ones own property ought to forgive even the most egregious logophobia. Better to just let it go.
'mon. Dinnae insult. Edit: (to be clear, this isn't anything modworthy or formal, I'm just prodding at you for insulting someone in a feedback thread, it's preferable you don't)
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I hate the facebooky type meme posts and twitter links too, even in the lounge. Hard to escape all that tho'.
If you read the original thread, you'll see two things happened.
1) Great Replacement Theory was used as part of a factual claim. It was in the headline title, and used in thread to make the same point.
2) It was presented as if it was from a respectable news organisation.
There are other contextual factors regarding post/mod history.
The specific thing which made this warnable, in my view, is evincing your own belief in a racist conspiracy theory as part of your argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement
Two clicks worth for you.
No worries.