Should I get with my teacher?

Zolenskify November 19, 2024 at 15:17 2625 views 26 comments
Is what it sounds like, nothing to nsfw, but maybe just some coffee? I don't want to assume anything, but I do know these things can lead places...

Afterthought: I see there are quite a few thoughts on this, I'm glad there is a discussion to be had. We did not end up getting coffee.

Comments (26)

Zolenskify November 19, 2024 at 15:26 #948666
Am in college btw if that changes anything.
javi2541997 November 19, 2024 at 16:13 #948679
Quoting Zolenskify
Is what it sounds like, nothing to nsfw, but maybe just some coffee?


You and I know what will happen after that coffee. :smirk:

By the way, why do you want to get with your teacher? It seems that you feel attracted to her a priori.
 
unenlightened November 19, 2024 at 16:40 #948683
No.

Keep a professional distance. There is a duty of care, a duty of justice, and fair and equal treatment, and these would be compromised by such a relationship. It would compromise your teacher, threaten their career, and undermine your achievements as a student.
Fooloso4 November 19, 2024 at 16:44 #948685
Most schools have a policy prohibiting a relationship with a student that goes beyond coffee,but it happens. Since it is your teacher who must deal with the consequences of violating the rules it is the teacher who should make the decision.

AmadeusD November 19, 2024 at 21:09 #948743
Quoting unenlightened
No.

Keep a professional distance. There is a duty of care, a duty of justice, and fair and equal treatment, and these would be compromised by such a relationship. It would compromise your teacher, threaten their career, and undermine your achievements as a student.


Correct. Transfer to another teacher. Then get the coffee.
jgill November 19, 2024 at 22:06 #948757
Depends on what "get with" means. After my first divorce one of my mature students showed up on the front row with an apple on her desk. Later that day she popped into my office. I asked "Where is my apple?". She said, "I ate it". We were happily married for 33 years.
javi2541997 November 20, 2024 at 06:08 #948871
Quoting jgill
"Where is my apple?". She said, "I ate it". We were happily married for 33 years.


I thought -- 'Mate, I don't recall reading that passage of Adam and Eve in the Bible'. :razz:

We have to never disregard the power of an apple. That's why I had one painted by Dali as a profile pic.
Tom Storm November 20, 2024 at 07:48 #948885
Fooloso4 November 20, 2024 at 14:47 #948967
Reply to jgill

A charming story but if this were to happen today you might have ended up in trouble with the administration.
When I was in school this was not at all uncommon. What changed?

After the courts found in the 1990s that universities could be financially liable for sexual harassment, many institutions — among them, the University of California and Yale — adopted formal policies forbidding sexual or romantic relationships between faculty and students.


From New York Times:New Harvard Policy Bans Teacher-Student Relations
Vera Mont November 21, 2024 at 02:10 #949103
It depends.
180 Proof November 21, 2024 at 06:39 #949126
Reply to Zolenskify :smirk: Well ...

... a student's pov:

https://youtu.be/7grUgixqH8I?si=7SxW3vFpDEV2X9Rg

or a teacher's pov:

https://youtu.be/ITnL7-2RwUQ?si=RaALyxM10i0c95Hs
T Clark November 22, 2024 at 16:42 #949471
I think this the wrong place to discuss this. I think you want reddit.com/r/getting with teacher.
Christoffer November 22, 2024 at 22:56 #949566
Quoting T Clark
I think this the wrong place to discuss this. I think you want reddit.com/r/getting with teacher.


Yeah, I don’t really understand the reason for it here. This is too personal for a discussion like this. Sure, it can be philosophical, but then make it so, not some advice as no one here can advice the specifics of case to case morality that has consequences beyond the theoretical.
Zolenskify November 23, 2024 at 04:49 #949608
Reply to Christoffer and Reply to T Clark This sentiment is valid and, because of this, I must clarify; I would never encroach on another's autonomy to communicate with complete strangers online, while simultaneously expecting them to act a certain way. How our conversations over the internet can become quickly misconstrued. Luckily, with as opaque as our understanding of one another can be, in return we happen upon the most insightful of thoughts, completely by chance at times. So, to have our own understanding of things is not enough. There are now more tools for humans to work with. Its now a matter of recognizing how each others' view of life helps us move forward, not the other way around. We accept the fact that, say, we're not super talented, or funny, or attractive, or... you get the idea. It doesn't matter, because any question we have can be answered so quickly, our goal - as intellectuals - shifts from how much to what kind of knowledge we equip ourselves with. For instance, our issue; I'm here, addressing your point just hours after the fact. But how many of us are already on to totally different topics and interests by now by virtue of just life in general? I look at this forum while I'm on my lunch break at work, learning alongside others who spend many hours at a time on here (not to say you can't work and spend hours on here, but I think you get me.) There is an obvious and rather cumbersome difference in attention spans on online forums that leads to no serious discussion. So, yeah, take things as personally as you think you need to. But don't demand others do the same. At any rate, the fix was as simple as rewording my inquiry: considering the dynamic that comes with mentor-natured relationships, is it moral to get with a teacher versus an actual professor?
jgill November 23, 2024 at 05:30 #949610
Quoting Zolenskify
is it moral to get with a teacher versus an actual professor?


A professor is not a teacher? I assume you mean pre-college instructor.

Sorry, but this thread is a joke. Have a chuckle and move on.
T Clark November 23, 2024 at 05:31 #949611
Quoting Zolenskify
At any rate, the fix was as simple as rewording my inquiry: considering the dynamic that comes with mentor-natured relationships, is it moral to get with a teacher versus an actual professor?


Yes, that is better for this forum. Some questions 1) Would the relationship be exploitive? 2) Would the relationship appear to be exploitive? 3) What are the rules at your institution? and the question always to ask 4) What could possibly go wrong.
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 04:19 #949809
Reply to T Clark I see things exactly the same way. Now that I reflect on it, my reply was directed at the other fellow. Sorry about that.
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 04:29 #949811
Quoting jgill
Sorry, but this thread is a joke. Have a chuckle and move on.

Reply to jgill Well, hang on a second. Didn't you mention a somewhat ironic situation where this happened to you?


Unless, you are joking, in which case that is actually kind of funny.
Quoting jgill
A professor is not a teacher? I assume you mean pre-college instructor.

Who said anything about a "pre-college instructor"?

Please, clear the air for me if I offended you.
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 04:29 #949812
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 04:41 #949813
Reply to javi2541997 I don't know man, I guess these thoughts just pop into my head while I'm surfing and need some insight. What happens is I fall when trying to land my pop up and I just totally get wiped. Case like that a few times and you're done done. Especially when its big and cold. Maryland is mostly where I do my surfing, so it's getting chilly; not gonna make it if I eat it too many times man. But I digress, right now I have to pick between going out with this one girl or a chance to catch a nice swell; so, I have my work cut out for me.
jgill November 24, 2024 at 05:45 #949814
Quoting Zolenskify
A professor is not a teacher? I assume you mean pre-college instructor. — jgill

Who said anything about a "pre-college instructor"?
Please, clear the air for me if I offended you.



Quoting Zolenskify
. . . is it moral to get with a teacher versus an actual professor?


No offense. Sorry if I mistook a serious OP for a bit of humor.

Quoting T Clark
and the question always to ask 4) What could possibly go wrong.


:chin:

javi2541997 November 24, 2024 at 05:47 #949815
Quoting Zolenskify
But I digress, right now I have to pick between going out with this one girl or a chance to catch a nice swell; so, I have my work cut out for me.


If I were you, I would go surfing and catch a nice swell. Look mate, I am from Madrid and my city has no access to the sea, but I understand how it feels to have the sea near you when I go to Barcelona or A Coruña often. I know it is a special feeling. It seems that you feel chilled when you are in the waves; then, you have to ask yourself if you would feel the same way getting your teacher to drink a coffee with you. It might be everything in your head; you have to be strong, man. I know it is difficult, but I think you are knocking on the wrong door. Why don't you try going out with a girl who also loves surfing like you?
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 16:01 #949877
Reply to javi2541997 Brother, already on to a different girl man; the teacher is old news. This other one does in fact like the beach she said, so it might work out super chill. Who knows though.
Zolenskify November 24, 2024 at 16:19 #949881
Reply to jgill Okay, I'm officially lost. As if the obvious needed to be stated, this thread is a joke; no rational person would consult an online forum of total strangers for advice on hooking up with a teacher. Unless of course the individual was so naïve to the ways of the internet, that - despite them being rational - they may see a potential issue with getting with their teacher, so they consult the internet for help. Though, as we all know, we can be led down some rather unfavorable paths taking advice from strangers online. Where the humor resolves is when I inevitably take some of the (obviously joking) advice of some responders, and end up in a bind: because it is clearly wrong to get with your teacher.
javi2541997 November 24, 2024 at 17:32 #949888
Quoting Zolenskify
Brother, already on to a different girl man; the teacher is old news. This other one does in fact like the beach she said, so it might work out super chill. Who knows though.


Glad to know! Stop faffing around, and have a coffee with that girl! :up:
jgill November 25, 2024 at 00:25 #949947
Quoting Zolenskify
already on to a different girl man; the teacher is old news. This other one does in fact like the beach she said, so it might work out super chill. Who knows though


:up: