Dare We Say, ‘Thanks for Nothing’?

FrankGSterleJr December 12, 2024 at 21:16 2300 views 13 comments
In regard to the ‘thanks’ in Thanksgiving Day: I would be quite willing/happy to consistently sincerely thank God with every meal, if everyone on Earth — and not just a portion of the planet’s populace — had enough clean, safe drinking water and nutritional food to maintain a normal, healthy daily life. And I genuinely would be pray-fully ‘thankful’ if every couple’s child would survive their serious illness rather than just a small portion of such sick children.

[On the other hand, what makes so many of us believe that collective humanity should be able to enjoy the pleasures of free will, but cry out for and expect divine mercy and rescue when our free will ruins our figurative good day — i.e. that we should have our cake and eat it, too?]

I realize it’s still socially awkward to question one of historical humanity’s largest and most sacrosanct institutions — prayer, and perhaps even saying heartfelt thanks to an omnipotent/omniscient deity. But I, a big fan of Christ’s unmistakable miracles and fundamental message, know I’m far from being alone in having a problem with thanking God for relative trivialities, such as a big-money-making professional sports-team’s win, especially with hunger regularly happening internationally.

Lastly, is it just me, or is there some truly unfortunate, bitter irony in holding faith and hope in prayer when unanswered prayer results in an increase in skeptical atheism and/or agnosticism? … Nevertheless, the following poem is for the growing number of people for whom there’s nothing to be thankful for on Thanksgiving Day, or any other day of the year.

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[i]Just pass me the holiday turkey, peas

and the delicious stuffing flanked

by buttered potatoes with gravy

since I’ve said grace with plenty ease

for the good food received I’ve thanked

my Maker who’s found me worthy.

It seems that unlike the many of those

in the unlucky Third World nation

I’ve been found by God deserving

to not have to endure the awful woes

and the stomach wrenching starvation

suffered by them with no dinner serving.

Therefor hand over to me the corn

the cranberry sauce, fresh baked bread

since for my grub I’ve praised the Lord

yet I need not hear about those born

whose meal I’ve been granted instead

as they receive naught of the grand hoard.[/i]

Comments (13)

Leontiskos December 12, 2024 at 21:36 #953246
Quoting FrankGSterleJr
Dare We Say, ‘Thanks for Nothing’?


Sure, if you have nothing. But it's mostly not the people with nothing saying such things.
Count Timothy von Icarus December 12, 2024 at 23:10 #953258
Truly, we should forget the prayers and thanks and just fully embrace our secular bourgeoisie culture. Rename the damn thing "Thanksgaining." The sales start on Thursday now anyhow, and retail workers have to show up before they've had time to eat any turkey either way.

What should we be thankful for? Getting to gain!

I figure we give people until 2 or 3 in the afternoon to finish gorging themselves on the cornucopia provided by Monsanto and co. and then it's time for shopping! Remember to bring the pepper spray in case someone tries to take the last TV or Xbox you want. :rofl:
T Clark December 13, 2024 at 00:30 #953267
Quoting FrankGSterleJr
is it just me


Yes, it’s just you. And @Count Timothy von Icarus apparently.
Count Timothy von Icarus December 13, 2024 at 00:52 #953269
Reply to T Clark

There will be more of us once we unveil the new Thanksgaining mascot, Pizza the Hutt. People will drop their dry turkey in no time.

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T Clark December 13, 2024 at 01:31 #953271
Quoting Count Timothy von Icarus
There will be more of us once we unveil the new Thanksgaining mascot, Pizza the Hutt. People will drop their dry turkey in no time.


I'm sure that's true. I also neglected to mention every Native American ever.
BC December 13, 2024 at 04:10 #953281
Reply to FrankGSterleJr People, being what we are, tend to mix a lot of sentimental claptrap into their otherwise serious religion. Combine sentimental claptrap with a secular holiday (which Thanksgiving is) and you get low quality results.

It's not surprising that there are a lot of trivial prayers sent heavenward on behalf of one's lottery ticket, the home team, or the potentially great date with so and so. God is supposed to have his eye on the sparrow, and surely this lottery ticket is more important than some bird. So, God, how about a big win here?

Following the Lord's Prayer formula, the basics of prayer are:

a) acknowledgement of the Holy (hallowed be your name)
b) acknowledgement of God's rule (thy will be done)
c) simple requests (our daily bread)
d) confession (forgive us our sins...)
e) a plea to be spared the great test (lead us not into temptation)
f) acknowledgement of the Holy (for the kingdom, the power...)

The Lord's Prayer isn't a rigid model that has to be followed, but it does suggest how to pray to God, and it isn't all "I need this", "give me that", "make that team lose and mine win" etc.

Based on my very close relationship with God, and hints I've picked up from high ranking personnel up there, God doesn't give a rat's ass about who wins the big game, or whether your lottery ticket will pay off.
unenlightened December 13, 2024 at 09:13 #953299
Those who have almost nothing are usually thankful for the little they have.
Those who have almost everything usually think they deserve better.
Wayfarer December 13, 2024 at 09:23 #953301
Reply to unenlightened :100:

My only prayer is 'Thanks for this day Lord'. Every night.
unenlightened December 13, 2024 at 10:03 #953302
Reply to Wayfarer Poor you! :smile:
Vera Mont December 13, 2024 at 14:45 #953328
Quoting FrankGSterleJr
On the other hand, what makes so many of us believe that collective humanity should be able to enjoy the pleasures of free will, but cry out for and expect divine mercy and rescue when our free will ruins our figurative good day — i.e. that we should have our cake and eat it, too?

The human condition in a square bracket. We have caused most of our own misery - not entirely unknowingly, because there was always at least one 'enemy of the people' who warned us and was overruled for all the wrong reasons.

Quoting unenlightened
Those who have almost nothing are usually thankful for the little they have.
Those who have almost everything usually think they deserve better.

The whole point of institutional religion.


Hanover December 13, 2024 at 17:32 #953361
Quoting FrankGSterleJr
Lastly, is it just me, or is there some truly unfortunate, bitter irony in holding faith and hope in prayer when unanswered prayer results in an increase in skeptical atheism and/or agnosticism? … Nevertheless, the following poem is for the growing number of people for whom there’s nothing to be thankful for on Thanksgiving Day, or any other day of the year.


How do you know the prayer was unanswered as opposed to the answer having been no?

As to the OP, you should be thankful for nothing to the extent that what you haven't received is part of your bounty as well.
180 Proof December 14, 2024 at 01:48 #953449
Quoting Vera Mont
The human condition in a square bracket. We have caused most of our own misery - not entirely unknowingly, because there was always at least one 'enemy of the people' who warned us and was overruled for all the wrong reasons.

:100:

Those who have almost nothing are usually thankful for the little they have.
Those who have almost everything usually think they deserve better.
— unenlightened

The whole point of institutional religion.

:fire:
kazan December 14, 2024 at 05:09 #953465
@Hanover,
"As to the OP.........what you haven't received is part of your bounty as well."

Hard to deny, and so general and sweeping as to cover all in between the metaphorical glass full and the glass empty. But no proof of or disproof of or useful comment on the two (glasses)/extremes of religious belief and disbelief in religion.

And hence, dare we say "Thanks for nothing" and be saying anything meaningful ( in this OP's sense) without the acceptance of our addressing a "higher power".

Probably not. Religious nuances ( or nuances derived from religious belief) are hard to remove from our language without stripping it of much sense/ understandability.

a tuppenny smile