Identity

Gmak December 31, 2024 at 12:46 1200 views 10 comments
In my journey, I have pass through this subject. And it appear it's a sensitive subject. Which I understand why now.

Here the result of my work on this.

1-There is a real identity. Can be hidden in various way.
2-There is the public identity. Facebook for example.
3-There is the will identity: what you want to become.
4-There is the hidden identity.
5-There the hypocrite identity: the game you need to play among your family or group or friend.

I would say there is more.

Comments (10)

NOS4A2 December 31, 2024 at 22:55 #957181
Reply to Gmak

How does one hide a real identity?
Tom Storm December 31, 2024 at 23:02 #957184
Reply to Gmak So far this sounds like a fairly commonplace observation. When I've heard this argument proposed, generally people talk about selves rather than identities, but it is the same phenomenon. What about this do you find intriguing?
Hanover December 31, 2024 at 23:20 #957193
Quoting NOS4A2
How does one hide a real identity?


You call yourself NOS4A2 for example.
NOS4A2 January 01, 2025 at 04:37 #957262
Reply to Hanover

You call yourself NOS4A2 for example.


I do not call myself that. You call me that.
Hanover January 01, 2025 at 04:52 #957265
Quoting NOS4A2
I do not call myself that. You call me that.


What do you call yourself?

NOS4A2 January 01, 2025 at 05:09 #957272
Reply to Hanover

My given name.
LuckyR January 01, 2025 at 06:46 #957287
Reply to Gmak It seems to me that all of the listed "identities" are subjective, so while they exist, they're incredibly fluid.
Corvus January 01, 2025 at 11:57 #957316
Quoting Gmak
I would say there is more.


Is false identity also identity? Can there be identity of identity? If so, which identity is the real identity?

Can identity exist without thing it identifies with? When the identified thing dies or becomes non-existence, what happens to the identity?
Hanover January 01, 2025 at 12:29 #957321
Quoting NOS4A2
My given name.


People use pseudonyms to hide their identity. I've seen it before. Like now.
unenlightened January 01, 2025 at 12:55 #957324
Begin the exploration of identity with a process - of identification. A process of creating boundaries between self and not-self, and identifications of self and 'other-like-me'.

Obviously, there is a broadly informational fundamental reality in play here; a rock is what it is, but has no identity to itself true or false. I identify as a shit hot philosopher, and that can be true or false; either way it is a belief held by either a shit hot philosopher or a self-deluded being.

You may identify me as a shit hot philosopher, a self-deluded being, or a dangerous radical or whatever, and your analysis of my identity is obviously heavily dependent on your own self- identification, and the identification of you made and communicated to you by significant others.

Thus real and fake, true and false, public and private are all valid aspects of an identity formed through multiple interactions, and clearly there are strong aspects of 'reality' to even completely unrealistic self-identifications that people make of themselves and of others. I can think I'm a very stable genius and live in the world as if that is true, even if a more truthful assessment is that I am a narcissist fantasist living a fantasy life.