Philosophy writing challenge June 2025 announcement

Moliere February 01, 2025 at 15:21 6575 views 246 comments
Hello and welcome to the Philosophy Writing Challenge - June 2025.

This is an opportunity to submit your own philosophical writing as 'essays' to be read and commented on by other members. Similar to the Literary Activity, the emphasis is on participation and sharing and exploring our creative philosophical side together.

A separate discussion thread will be posted 'Meet the Authors'. A list of authors will be provided for the 'guessing game'.

After the authors are revealed on June 16th the authors can:
1. Respond to the comments and feedback.
2. Join in the general discussion, compare and contrast other essays. Note: authors, as readers, can comment on specific essays before this

We have some guidelines for participation:

1) Anyone can enter. Entries can be PMed to me.
2) Max one submission per member.
3) A minimum of 500 words to a maximum of 5000 words.
4) Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay. The Essay's Title and Topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. It should be systematic with an Introduction, Main Body and Conclusion. This is non-fiction. Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.
5) Submissions are to be anonymous. Don't advertise what you've written.
6) Entries must not be previously available online, or in print form.
7) Entries will be posted as discussion OPs and may be commented upon.
8) Deadline for submissions is May 31st 23:59 GMT
9) All entries will be posted on June 1st.
10) Members please carefully read the essays before offering thoughtful feedback. A more open-ended conversation will take place in the 'Meet the Authors' thread that will be created on June 15th.
11) No AI (except for proofreading). There isn't anything to win so you'd only be hurting yourself anyways since the point of the exercise is to stretch our creative powers together.


Formatting:
If you care about formatting, please send a pastebin link rather than text. If you send text, the formatting will be lost when the story is copy-pasted into its post. Here is a video tutorial followed by verbal instructions:



To use pastebin the author needs to send the link to me via PM, which requires nothing more than pasting in the box and clicking the create button underneath. Then tick "unlisted" so the essay isn't discoverable. PM me the link and I'll utilize that in posting your essay.

Please post any further questions or comments you have in the discussion below.

Thank you. Looking forward to reading all submissions and feedback. Enjoy!

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EDIT:

Resources were requested for help on what exactly an academic philosophy essay should look like, and provided by @Amity so I've appended them here:

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-lenman-how-to-write-a-crap-philosophy-essay.pdf

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-pryor-guidelines-on-writing-a-philosophy-paper.pdf

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~assets/doc/University_life/learning_teaching/posing_the_question.pdf

See also:

Quoting Wayfarer
My advice would be to start with a concise paragraph expressing the point of the essay. Then sketch out headings and sub-headings, representing the progressive stages of building the argument and the steps required to establish each step. That step of building level 1, 2 and 3 headings is often helpful in structuring your content.

Also consider likely objections and your counter to them.

End with a conclusion which should state the paragraph you started with but now as a conclusion based on the preceding paragraphs.


For a fast guide on structuring the essay.

Comments (246)

Amity February 01, 2025 at 15:46 #964804
Reply to Moliere
Really great to see this challenge up and running. Thanks to you and everyone who supported this new TPF adventure :cool:

For those who weren't at the beginning of this, you can read it here:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15596/tpf-philosophy-competitionactivity-2025-/p1

I hope everyone enjoys! :flower:
Amity February 02, 2025 at 07:17 #964893
@Moliere - thank you again for writing such a comprehensive and helpful OP for this activity.

We owe so much to @Baden and the Literary Activity team. They provided the basic core which evolved over the years to showcase and encourage the imagination and creativity of members. Fantastic job, well done! :fire:

In a way, it was/is easier than this one. For example, I'm thinking of Guideline 4.

Quoting Moliere
4) Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay. The Essay's Title and Topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. It should be systematic with an Introduction, Main Body and Conclusion. This is non-fiction. Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.


If memory serves, in the Lit. Activity, the broad category was 'a story'.
Even then, there were times when an entry was questioned. This is not a story.
And evaluated accordingly.

I think this is where imaginative writing can be stifled. If the mind is closed or wary of going beyond the traditional. Not branching out to meet the sky and sun.
To think outside the box.

And so, it might be the case with 'philosophy writing'.
And even opening it up as 'Philosophy for All' brings some difficulties and interesting questions.

Is it indeed 'non-fiction'? Well, yes and no.
Isn't everything we write a story? Part of a bigger process...

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
In writing a philosophy piece, where do you think the boundaries lie or how far can thoughts fly.

I think writing an 'essay' takes much more time and serious thought, hence the early February announcement. Stories can be written in a day! And I guess some experienced philosophers already have a few tucked away in their sock drawer. But hey, this is a chance to be a 'new' you!
Toss out the worn and grey...become fresh and stripey. Turn the kaleidoscope for a new pattern :cool:


























Amity February 02, 2025 at 07:58 #964901
Quoting Amity
Is it indeed 'non-fiction'?


Even as someone who helped draft this, I still have questions...

Jack Cummins February 02, 2025 at 09:38 #964907
Reply to Amity
With the guidelines I am wondering how the entries are going to be different from thread topics. It may simply be that many are longer and less of raising a question. Also, the creative aspects may get lost if it becomes too academic. The guidelines specify poetry only being used as illustration, but it is unclear if the use of fiction can be used at all and to what extent. That is because the division between fiction and non fiction is far from absolute.
Amity February 02, 2025 at 10:21 #964910
Quoting Jack Cummins
With the guidelines I am wondering how the entries are going to be different from thread topics. It may simply be that many are longer and less of raising a question


Yes. This question was raised before. I think you are not alone in wondering what is the point?
We already have 'philosophy writing'. From the original discussion:

Quoting Moliere
The difference being between a post and this is an essay, so I'd expect some kind of complete thought or argument. Whereas with a post I only expect enough of a topic to get a conversation going, I'd think that an essay actually completes a thought or presents a whole argument or tells a story or is in some sense a self-contained peice of writing meant to be presented as a whole for a reader.

Whereas a thread can do that, it's really just about having a conversation at all and needn't conclude or be self-contained and can wander more.


The difference:

Quoting Amity
A typical discussion thread involves the author right from the get go.
This can affect the responses. The author also has to maintain the thread, responding directly, sometime immediately to other participants.

Here, the anonymous essay, article or philosophy writing is read and evaluated without bias. The focus is on the ideas and how well they are expressed. How they are understood or interpreted.

Feedback is given by readers and other authors.
A conversation takes place without input/interference by the author.
Until...The Reveal!


Quoting Jack Cummins
Also, the creative aspects may get lost if it becomes too academic.


Even academic essays use imagination and creativity. Think 'thought experiments' and use of 'myths', continuing questions from different perspectives.
The style and format chosen gives voice to the individual's ideas and views.

Quoting Jack Cummins
The guidelines specify poetry only being used as illustration, but it is unclear if the use of fiction can be used at all and to what extent.


Quoting Moliere
Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.


I agree this can be clarified. I played a part in the confusion. Go figure! :smile:
I know that a poem can be seen as a piece of philosophical writing but uncertain as to the balance.

I think in this activity, it perhaps should be given background and context in an Introduction?
The main thing is to make the philosophical point clear, no? To follow an idea through...to a conclusion.
Even if that means there is no conclusion but more questions! Or responses...

Quoting Jack Cummins
That is because the division between fiction and non fiction is far from absolute.


Indeed. I'm glad we are having this discussion to explore and clarify meaning.
Some authors, like Iris Murdoch, made a clear distinction between their philosophy and novels.




















Amity February 02, 2025 at 11:14 #964915
I admit to not knowing much of Wittgenstein. However, when I was searching for 'poetry as philosophical writing', I found this:

Quoting Writing Philosophy as Poetry: Literary Form in Wittgenstein
His disposition,” Bertrand Russell wrote of the young Wittgenstein in 1912 , “is that of an artist, intuitive and moody” (cited in Monk 1990 , 43 ). A similar judgment was made some fifteen years later by Rudolf Carnap in Vienna:

His point of view and his attitude toward people and problems . . . were much more similar to those of a creative artist than to those of a scientist; one might almost say similar to those of a religious prophet or a seer. When he started to formulate his view on some specific philosophical problem, we often felt the internal struggle that occurred in him at that very moment, a struggle by which he tried to penetrate from darkness to light under an intense and painful strain…. When finally, sometimes after a prolonged and arduous effort, his answer came forth, his statement stood before us like a newly created piece of art or a divine revelation. (Monk 1990 , 244)

And Wittgenstein himself, hoping, in 1919, to persuade Ludwig von Ficker, the editor of the literary journal Der Brenner, to publish his controversial Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus , remarked, “The work is strictly philosophical and at the same time literary” ( Monk 1990 , 177 ).


Just one example...

Amity February 02, 2025 at 11:20 #964916
Above all:
Quoting Amity
It should be an exciting interaction, weaving questions, responses and trying to understand the meaning of the text. Of mutual benefit in a positive engagement.
Amity February 02, 2025 at 12:08 #964918
Quoting At the intersection of philosophy and poetic inquiry - Bera
Poetry and philosophy overlap in many areas. Poetry is concerned with the exploration of human experience: the physical and metaphysical world, issues of ethics and morality, universal questions about existence, knowledge and meaning; reaching for transcendental or universal truths; and so does philosophy.

Poetry and philosophy both place a high value on the precise use of language: philosophers strive for clarity and rigour in their arguments, while poets often seek to evoke emotions and imagery. Both use metaphor, ambiguity and symbolism to convey meanings and appreciate the power of form to convey complex ideas, emotions and aesthetics. [...]

Several philosophers have also been poets, contributing significantly to both fields. Notable examples include Plato (c. 427–347 BCE), Rumi (1207–1273), the Indian polymath, Rabindranath Tagore (1861–1941), Fernando Pessoa (1888–1935), the Portuguese poet whose work blends poetry with existential and metaphysical themes, T.S. Eliot (1888–1965), and Kahlil Gibran (1883–1931) the Lebanese writer, poet and philosopher best known for The Prophet.


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I'd like to draw attention to the highly creative philosophical contributions of @PoeticUniverse.

From 2 recent discussions:
1. Tao follows Nature - started by @Arcane Sandwich.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15720/tao-follows-nature/p1

Excerpt:
Quoting Poetic Universe
The Manifestation

Through endless transmutation’s flowing dance,
The Eternal dons ten thousand changing forms,
Like one great ocean lifting countless waves,
Or single sky spawning infinite storms.

Each temporal thing that rises from its depths
Bears witness to that which forever stays,
A momentary expression of the whole,
A fleeting actor in eternal plays.



2. What exactly is Process Philosophy? - started by @Darkneos.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15737/what-exactly-is-process-philosophy/p1

Excerpt:

Quoting Poetic Universe
A Conversation with the Great Lama
(Who lives near me)
On Reality and Illusion

“Lama, I’ve heard that this world isn’t real,
That all we perceive is mere illusion’s deal—
That rain isn’t wet, and pain doesn’t hurt,
And nothing that seems to exist is quite real.”

“Indeed, that’s the teaching passed down through time,
That reality’s nature is more sublime
Than what our senses tell us is true.
Tell me, does this help when your problems climb?”

“Well, Lama, I’ve tried to see through the veil,
To treat life’s hard knocks as just details that fail
To pierce the true nature of ultimate truth—
But hunger still hungers, and storms still assail.

“The sunrise still wakes me, the night makes me sleep,
My heart still can love, and my eyes still can weep,
Each moment feels solid, each pain cuts as sharp
As if this illusion weren’t merely skin-deep.”

“You speak what you find with admirable sight.
The world does persist, through both day and night,
Appearing exactly, in every small way,
As if the illusion were really quite right.”


I would hope this kind of imaginative response to questions in a philosophy thread could have its place in the 'Philosophy Writing Challenge - June 2025'. Given a context and background, I don't see why not... @Moliere @PoeticUniverse your thoughts?

It seems spontaneous and contains humour.
Excerpt:

Quoting Poetic Universe
Space-time energy is doomed to entropic anihilation ; so where did our limited supply come from?
— Gnomon

Heck if I know; I'm on vacation…

To the Ends of the Universe: A Cosmic Road Trip

The Departure

I took a road trip through the universe recently,
Rolled down the windows of my consciousness,
Cranked up some space-time tunes real loud—
The cosmic background radiation was a bit repetitive.

Holy-moly, what an inhospitable joint!
Forget about finding a decent truck stop
Or even a patch of habitable space.
I’d rather be stuck in rush hour in Melbourne.



It is a form of stimulus and response. A musical dance of ideas providing a different perspective.
It is art and it is meaningful. It is part of the bigger process where a single philosophical question can inspire and spark others...

What do others think? Is poetry over the boundary lines? Should it just be used as support for a philosophical point? Or what...

Quoting Moliere
Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.








Moliere February 02, 2025 at 15:10 #964949
Reply to Jack Cummins
My thought is the difference is mostly about structure and effort -- we make posts about an idea but they only need to be somewhat related to philosophy to be A-OK, whereas the essay should somehow complete a thought. Whereas a thread is a conversation starter an essay is intentionally written by an author to express a particular thought for a reader.

But, mostly, I don't see being too picky about what really makes the difference, and with respect to fiction/poetry etc.:

Quoting Amity
I would hope this kind of imaginative response to questions in a philosophy thread could have its place in the 'Philosophy Writing Challenge - June 2025'.


I also don't see the benefit of being too picky in defining which is what when.

Since the idea is to explore ideas together for fun and exercise, and there's not any prize at the end, I'm not too concerned with a firm set of criteria. Insofar that the participants are putting in an effort I don't see ruling out something because it's using fiction or because it's using poetry -- Wittgenstein, Heidegger, and other philosophers being prime examples of people who use a poetic expression or create whole new words even in order to pursue a point.

The guideline is there to help differentiate what makes this different more than provide a set of rules by which something will or will not be accepted. Someone could even make a point in the threads, for instance, if they feel a particular entry is too poetic/fiction based or something -- I see more value in reflecting on that on the boards than defining it ahead of time.
Amity February 02, 2025 at 15:19 #964951
Quoting Moliere
The guideline is there to help differentiate what makes this different more than provide a set of rules by which something will or will not be accepted. Someone could even make a point in the threads, for instance, if they feel a particular entry is too poetic/fiction based or something -- I see more value in reflecting on that on the boards than defining it ahead of time.


Exactly this. :up:

Quoting Moliere
the idea is to explore ideas together for fun and exercise


Yup! :cool:
Looking forward to the diversity...


Arcane Sandwich February 03, 2025 at 00:11 #965070
I've got an idea for a short article. I'll probably participate.
Jack Cummins February 03, 2025 at 07:12 #965132
Reply to Moliere
I can see the point about the difference between a thread and an essay. The author would probably need to be putting across a thought or view. There probably needs to be a certain amount of openness to varying forms of expression in the spirit of creativity. As @Amity says Iris Murdoch distinguishes between her fiction and non fiction. The possible forms of non fiction, as distinct from fiction, may include letters and autobiographical, or life writing, and some other forms.
Amity February 03, 2025 at 09:51 #965143
Quoting Jack Cummins
The possible forms of non fiction, as distinct from fiction, may include letters and autobiographical, or life writing, and some other forms.


Yes. There are many forms to choose from. Previously:
Philosophy Writing includes:
Essays, Articles, Philosophical texts, Meditations, Personal narratives, Diaries, Memoirs, Correspondence, Letters, Lectures, and Contemporary criticism.


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Now, for a deeper dive into Literary Forms of Philosophy.
A most fascinating and enlightening paper can be downloaded as pdf - 13 pages:

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/PHILOSOPHY-IN-LITERARY-FORMS-Radovanovic/98ba2ae50574774d07f8b1445f073569bd1389d6

The different forms:
2.1 Poetic
2.2 Dramatic - dialogues
2.3 Prose
2.3.1 Letters and Epistles
2.3.2 Philosophical Essays
2.4 Literary-Philosophical Genres of the Enlightenment
2.5 Literary Forms of Existentialism
2.5.1. On Existentialism
2.5.2. Undefined Genre
2.5.3. A Novel and a Novella

Concluding Word
Quoting B. Radovanovic
... literary forms are legitimate forms of exposition in philosophy. Such works, in addition to reflectively valuable content, possess artistic value, as well. The works of the most eminent philosophers, such as Parmenides, Plato, Pascal, Nietzsche, Sartre, and others, bear witness to that.


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An excerpt

Quoting B. Radovanovic
2.5.1. On Existentialism

A philosophical treatise is often not an adequate form of expression to critically examine the situation of an individual and offer an answer to life's questions, crises, and quandaries. It turns out that a purely literary expression is particularly suitable for considering problems of an individual's life, which is evident precisely in existentialist philosophy. This is the reason for the frequent use of the novel form in existential philosophy. The very fact that certain philosophers of existence were also important authors affected the diffusion and popularity of this movement. In the process of its expansion and development, the philosophy of existence, having gathered a greater momentum and elan, is called existentialism. Major representatives of existentialism in philosophy are Søren Kierkegaard, Karl Jaspers, Martin Heidegger, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Albert Camus.


There is more about Sartre and Camus in 2.5.3.
Interesting that they both received the Nobel Prize for Literature. Sartre in 1964 and Camus...

Quoting B. Radovanovic
For his literary production inspired by the issues of human conscience, in 1957, as the second youngest laureate, he received the Nobel Prize for literature. Although many theoreticians place him among the existentialists, he refused to accept that he belongs to this orientation, as well as to any ideology and trend in thinking. Camus’ most well-known works are novels The Stranger/L'Étranger, The Plague/La Peste and essays The Myth of Sisyphus/Le Mythe de Sisyphe and The Rebel/L'Homme révolté.
Given the topics that his works deal with, as well as the need to speak about the topical
issues of human existence and the absurdity of life using widely accepted forms of narration, a philosopher and a writer Albert Camus opted for expounding his philosophical ideas entirely through literary prose.








Amity February 03, 2025 at 10:26 #965145
Quoting Arcane Sandwich
I've got an idea for a short article. I'll probably participate.

:up: :cool:
Maravilloso! Nuffink quite like the scent of inspiration in the morning...or any other time.
Does the writing mood just strike when it likes or does one have to practise at certain times?
I guess it depends on the individual's way of life...or philosophy...
Amity February 03, 2025 at 12:39 #965161
Talking about Articles as an expression of philosophical ideas and a source of inspiration, here is one written by Seán Radcliffe.

It won him the 2023 Irish Young Philosopher Awards Grand Prize and Philosopher of Our Time Award. He is now studying Mathematics and Economics at Trinity College, Dublin, where is he also an active member of the University Philosophical Society.


Reading an assortment of articles can give you an idea of how to write one. Not only the how but the what. Themes or topics that grab your attention, inspire and make you and others want to know more.
The Philosophy Now online magazine offers 4 for free, each month.

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Excerpts to illustrate clear writing, exposition, hypothesis, questions and a conclusion:

Quoting Plato's Cave and Social Media - Issue 165 - Philosophy Now
Plato’s Cave & Social Media
Seán Radcliffe asks, has Plato’s Allegory of the Cave been warning us of social media for 2,400 years?

The ‘Allegory of the Cave’ is a Socratic argument recorded by the Greek philosopher Plato, a student of Socrates, and the writer of The Republic (c.375 BCE), which contains a dialogue between Socrates and Plato’s brother Glaucon. [...]

In many ways, social media can be seen as a modern day version of the cave. We are bombarded with information, opinions, and images that are carefully curated by algorithms and presented to us on a screen. Like the prisoners in the cave, we can become trapped in the limited perspective this engenders, mistaking the shadows presented to us for the real thing. These shadows thus represent the fake news, conspiracy theories, and propaganda that is spread by social media.
[...]

However, the question remains: Will we ever know what is real in the age of social media? [...]

At the heart of this inquiry lies the paradox of perception and knowledge: How can we know what is real when our perceptions are inherently subjective and fallible? Most philosophers think that reality exists independently of our perceptions, and that we can come to know it through reason and empirical investigation. Others contend that reality is nothing more than our subjective experiences, and still others, that we can never truly know what is real. I believe that we need to recognise the interdependence of perception and knowledge. [...]

The creators of social media apps have essentially built a cave for us, and we seem to have submitted to its chains. We often rely on what we see on social media or news outlets without investigating the truth behind it. The Allegory thus points out the importance of having a critical approach to the information we receive, in order to have a more accurate understanding of reality.

In conclusion, Plato’s Allegory of the Cave provides a compelling analogy, and warning, for the dangers of social media. It highlights how social media can create a distorted sense of reality, reinforce existing biases, influence us through external forces, lead to addiction, and disconnect individuals from reality. So while social media can be a powerful tool for communication and connection, it is important to be aware of its limitations and the potential for it to distort our perceptions. By looking at the whole picture, and by drawing on the lessons of the Allegory of the Cave’s reverse form of ontology, we can begin to navigate the complexities, even jeopardies, of social media, and work towards a more informed and enlightened understanding of the world.

[emphasis added]

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In writing and submitting an essay or article or piece of philosophy writing:

Note the importance of a Title:

It is the reader's first impression. It captures attention.
It communicates the main idea. It condenses and relates to the content.
It is an intriguing guide, leading to what...?
It shows the care and creativity of the author.

https://www.oxbridgeessays.com/blog/how-to-title-an-essay/


From: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/949836

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The philosopher Plato and his inventive myths/stories echoing down the ages...

Quoting Plato's Myths - SEP
The Cave, the narrative that occurs in the Republic (514a–517a), is a fantastical story, but it does not deal explicitly with the beyond (the distant past, life after death etc.), and is thus different from the traditional myths Plato uses and the myths he invents. Strictly speaking, the Cave is an analogy, not a myth. Also in the Republic, Socrates says that until philosophers take control of a city “the politeia whose story we are telling in words (muthologein) will not achieve its fulfillment in practice” (501e2–5; translated by Rowe (1999, 268)).

The construction of the ideal city may be called a “myth” in the sense that it depicts an imaginary polis (cf. 420c2: “We imagine the happy state”). In the Phaedrus (237a9, 241e8) the word muthos is used to name “the rhetorical exercise which Socrates carries out” (Brisson 1998, 144), but this seems to be a loose usage of the word.


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Continuing thoughts on philosophy and literature. And the question of hypocrisy in Plato.
A 20 min podcast by Peter Adamson:
Quoting Plato, Poetry and Myth - History of Philosophy without any gaps
Plato criticized both the epic poetry of Homer and Hesiod, and the tragic and comic poets. Yet he invented myths of his own. So what was his attitude towards literature and myth? Peter tackles this question in a final episode on Plato.



Moliere February 03, 2025 at 22:02 #965259
Quoting Jack Cummins
I can see the point about the difference between a thread and an essay. The author would probably need to be putting across a thought or view. There probably needs to be a certain amount of openness to varying forms of expression in the spirit of creativity. As Amity says Iris Murdoch distinguishes between her fiction and non fiction. The possible forms of non fiction, as distinct from fiction, may include letters and autobiographical, or life writing, and some other forms.


I'm certainly of the opinion that openness is the selling point for participation. I have no intent on refusing any submissions, for instance. I'm trying to give just enough structure to guide creative thought without hemming people in too much.

And my intent is to respond to every submission in a non-critical style -- i.e. I'll read the essay and try to take its own terms without importing my own thoughts, and try to offer pointers to clean up the essay.

Reply to Arcane Sandwich Sweet! For thems who already write philosophy essays or have submitted them to journals I'd say that this offers an opportunity for your more experimental side to receive feedback -- things you know just won't publish but that you're interested in.
Amity February 04, 2025 at 10:20 #965392
Quoting Moliere
I'm certainly of the opinion that openness is the selling point for participation. I have no intent on refusing any submissions, for instance. I'm trying to give just enough structure to guide creative thought without hemming people in too much.


Yes. For this activity to work and be an enjoyable exercise for all, there is a need for flexibility. The guidelines reflect that, at the same time as giving structure e.g. word limits and advice. Like:

Quoting Moliere
10) Members please carefully read the essays before offering thoughtful feedback. A more open-ended conversation will take place in the 'Meet the Authors' thread that will be created on June 15th.


The issue of how to give, receive and respond to feedback is important to consider.
What kind of 'feedback' is being sought by authors? Comments will vary according to individual experience, taste and confidence. The content and tone - is it about the writing style, format or ideas?
Is it to be more of a conversational questioning, a criticism or review? All of the above?

Quoting Moliere
And my intent is to respond to every submission in a non-critical style -- i.e. I'll read the essay and try to take its own terms without importing my own thoughts, and try to offer pointers to clean up the essay.


Like you, I intend to respond to every submission as in the Literary Activity. However, for me. I think this philosophy event will require a different style and way of reading/thinking. Tougher. We will see.

I don't know what you mean by not 'importing your own thoughts' when reading. I read as if in dialogue with the author, trying to understand. This means an engagement of 'self' - thoughts and background.
And, me being me, I tend not to offer 'pointers to clean up' but know that others do this really well.
Authors, I think, appreciate that their writing is being given careful consideration.
I suppose, even a line or two is better than complete silence.

If I am unsure or confused, I stop and ask questions rather than make assumptions and dismiss.
It's a great opportunity for both parties to learn.
It will be interesting to see how we each respond to 'criticism'. Some find it easier than others.

Above all, the authors should be respected and given encouragement. Harsh criticism should not destroy someone's creative spirit.

Quoting Moliere
For thems who already write philosophy essays or have submitted them to journals I'd say that this offers an opportunity for your more experimental side to receive feedback -- things you know just won't publish but that you're interested in.


Yes. I think that is what some will find a challenge. And why I think the anonymity appeals. It's like novelists publishing under a different pen-name to try out a different genre.

I hope to be surprised at the Reveal! :cool:














Amity February 04, 2025 at 10:42 #965394
I have a question as to the creative aspects and ways of an 'essay' as an 'attempt' to share ideas.

Can we include more than just writing? Writing on the wall is art. Art is textual. Intertextuality.

Can we take advantage of the fact that this is online and use images to illustrate the meanings within?

Also, I remember that some feedback in some of the stories used AI or photographs to give a sense of how the writing affected the reader. How their imagination was captured.

@Nils Loc springs immediately to mind. His creations lifted the words to another level. It enlivened.[*]
I guess the same thing can be done with music and YouTube. To see and hear the connections.
Perhaps, that is going too far...but Images are important. Visuals in philosophy to envisage visions.

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[*] Feedback to @hypericin's short story, Three Shittyass Ghosts:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/761686

To my own Red, White and Blue:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/831978

To @180 Proof's Duct Tape:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/833309

From Jamal to @Jamal's In the Wake of the Moriscos:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/764324
following @javi2541997's:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/761827

Jack Cummins February 04, 2025 at 12:25 #965408
Reply to Amity
While usage of linked sources and images may be an expansion of creativity, there is the question of how far this could go. If linked information is overused the essay could end up constituting a book and be time consuming if readers were expected to read too many links.

Also, regarding images, it is possible that it could turn the essay more into an art competition. It is also does depend on software for all of this. I am certainly not wishing to be negative and say that links and art should be avoided. However, if there is an expectation to include these, it could make it complicated.

People have varying amounts of time to commit to the activity, even though it several months away. Of course, all sources, even quotes, would need to be acknowledged in order to avoid plagiarism. There is also the question as to whether a bibliography is or not included and this may depend on the form which the author chooses. There is also the question whether links and images would be an aspect of appreciation of the 'essays' or detract from the writing itself. It may be that each person has to navigate this and make choices rather than guidelines being too prescriptive.
Amity February 04, 2025 at 13:03 #965420
Quoting Jack Cummins
While usage of linked sources and images may be an expansion of creativity, there is the question of how far this could go. If linked information is overused the essay could end up constituting a book and be time consuming if readers were expected to read too many links.


Yes. This kind of creative intrusion will certainly not always enhance the writing.
But I think some authors/readers might appreciate a few links, even if they are added at the end as references.

Hah, no books please, we're British! Well yeah, thank goodness for the maximum 5,000 word limit. I tend to read the short ones first.
There is no expectation of readers doing anything so tiring. We have our own limits. I think mine will be tested.

Quoting Jack Cummins
Also, regarding images, it is possible that it could turn the essay more into an art competition. It is also does depend on software for all of this. I am certainly not wishing to be negative and say that links and art should be avoided. However, if there is an expectation to include these, it could make it complicated.


Again, no expectation that this is even desired, never mind included.
The emphasis will always be on the writing. It should be clear and not cluttered. It was just one of my morning meanderings. Thanks for responding.

Quoting Jack Cummins
People have varying amounts of time to commit to the activity, even though it several months away. Of course, all sources, even quotes, would need to be acknowledged in order to avoid plagiarism. There is also the question as to whether a bibliography is or not included and this may depend on the form which the author chooses. There is also the question whether links and images would be an aspect of appreciation of the 'essays' or detract from the writing itself. It may be that each person has to navigate this and make choices rather than guidelines being too prescriptive.


It is always good practice to reference quotes. This can be done in-text without need for a biography or list at end. The latter is, as you say, up to the author. And I think such would not be included in the word count @Moliere but in-text would?

In general, the focus is on the writing. Most will do that. If a few people are inspired to include feedback with links or images to show appreciation or clarify, then whatever works.

I think @Moliere has made his intentions and the aims of this event clear.
It's still good to talk.Thanks!





















Moliere February 04, 2025 at 22:21 #965585
Quoting Amity
And I think such would not be included in the word count Moliere but in-text would?
Reply to Jack Cummins

I wouldn't count it.
Moliere February 05, 2025 at 00:45 #965632
I don't want people to worry about the rules too, too much. I'm mostly hoping to hear from many contributors who are stretching their creative sides and trying out something new, insofar that they are enjoying themselves.

One of the reasons I thought this a fun activity is I like to read other people's thoughts, no matter what they are thinking.
Moliere February 05, 2025 at 01:10 #965649
Though it occurs to me -- if anyone who is lukewarm on participation because they want more guidelines then please say something.

We can come up with more guidelines together if that's necessary for participation.
Amity February 05, 2025 at 09:49 #965797
Quoting Moliere
I don't want people to worry about the rules too, too much. I'm mostly hoping to hear from many contributors who are stretching their creative sides and trying out something new, insofar that they are enjoying themselves [...]

if anyone who is lukewarm on participation because they want more guidelines then please say something.
We can come up with more guidelines together if that's necessary for participation.


:smile: :cool:

I think most will appreciate the inclusive and welcoming approach taken.
I understand the desire for rule flexibility so as to encourage maximum participation.
Also, the slight 'push' to 'stretch' creative aspects. To try something different. Perhaps approaching a familiar topic from another perspective or using a 'new' form.

Until now, I have been somewhat guilty of a focus on literary philosophy.

I have ideas for this event but have yet to work out content and most interesting form. I'm motivated and enthused as to the choice available. I tend to the more 'artistic'...ahem! Playful.

Having said that, perhaps I need to return to something more academic. To exercise parts once excised or exorcised. To limber up and improve skills, I would need to read some rules or specific guidance.

I'm reminded of a post from the original thread:

I probably wouldn't write one, my essay skills have yet to evolve from early grade school (Paragraph 1: Introduction; Paragraphs 2 - 4: Three supporting reasons, Paragraph 5: Conclusion). Former English teacher once said to me: "Everything to write about has already been written, there is nothing new, only clever rehashing." He teaches philosophy at a major-ish university, last I was aware. I'm sure a few people here more intrepid than I could give him a run for his money, however. It'd be nice to see what gets submitted, that's for sure.
[my emphasis]

I despair when I read this kind of message. It discourages rather than encourages creativity.
Of course, the same topics or themes have been discussed and written about. Aspects of human life in a world with all its questions...values, how best to live, love, etc.

However, this is about the individual and what is 'new' to them. How it appears and how experience can be shared. There is always something new. It's all in the eyes and view.

It is also about combining the past, present and future. So, there is the example essay I posted earlier:
Plato’s Cave & Social Media
Seán Radcliffe asks, has Plato’s Allegory of the Cave been warning us of social media for 2,400 years?
from: https://philosophynow.org/issues/165/Platos_Cave_and_Social_Media

It is an imaginative way to reach something original for the author. And perhaps the reader.
There is a freshness. We can be unusual...

***

To return to academia and rules. From one of my earlier posts:

I think it would be good for both beginners and the more experienced.
To be challenged in ways other than writing in a thread. This would give people a chance to be creative and test themselves against others. Or simply for own enjoyment. That I would love to read :sparkle:

For revision, if needed! Or if other ways are better, suggestions welcome :up:

How to Read Philosophy
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/pryor-guidelines-on-reading-philosophy

How to Write Philosophy
Includes 7 links - one pdf by the highly recommended Pryor.
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/resources/writing


I will see. Do I really need to go back there to student days? What, if anything, is there to prove?

It will be wonderful if people who are reluctant to participate, because of previous discouragement, would find the joy in self-expression. Everyone's voice is important. Let it out, be fearless! Take the leap! :fire:



Amity February 05, 2025 at 10:22 #965804
A personal anecdote. My first academic essay.

Once upon a time...
In't days before t'internet.
In an institution preparing students to be teachers.
Write an essay on:
I can't remember the title.
But it had something to do with education. Perhaps, it ended with 'Discuss'.

I was woefully ignorant of 'How to Write an Essay' with all its criteria and standards.
No Guidelines were offered. Imagine that!

So, I duly wrote my thoughts on the subject, thinking that was what was required.
So, wrong! Low marks. Ouch! We don't want to hear your views. Oh, Oh-Kay...

I had worried about using other people's words. Concerned about 'copying', I thought it was cheating.
My new friend, educated at a private school, knew better.
So, I read her prize-winning essay. And was shocked to find a host of quotes, strung together by a few personal thoughts.

It is only when you know what the tutors/examiners are looking for that you can write accordingly.
To fit the bill and pass with flying colours. I learned the lesson.
You gotta know the structure, especially in philosophy. You gotta read and read to get a sense of what is good writing. Reflect and analyse. To recognise the need to be clear and keep to the point. To support your views and arguments by using relevant quotes. And so on...

The experienced, here, all know that. And I hope they will submit. And not just see this event as something trivial. This is important to widen perspectives and stretch the reader's ability to understand.
And if confused, to feel confident to ask. Curious questioning an' all that jazz!













Amity February 05, 2025 at 14:14 #965864
Quoting Amity
The experienced, here, all know that. And I hope they will submit.


To @Moliere
I'll leave it here, for now. I've said more than enough. Don't want to bore the pants off everybody.
I hope that we hear from other voices, as yet silent. :sparkle:

Quoting Moliere
One of the reasons I thought this a fun activity is I like to read other people's thoughts, no matter what they are thinking.


Yup! :up:






RussellA February 07, 2025 at 14:13 #966354
Quoting Moliere
Hello and welcome to the Philosophy Writing Challenge - June 2025.


Quoting Amity
Really great to see this challenge up and running.


I appreciate your initiative and the opportunity to take part.
Amity February 07, 2025 at 15:32 #966364
Quoting RussellA
I appreciate your initiative and the opportunity to take part.


Hi there. It's so good to hear this, thank you!

We're not allowed to talk specifics...

Quoting Moliere
5) Submissions are to be anonymous. Don't advertise what you've written.


....but...do you have something in mind already?


Right now, my mind is on the chaotic side of clarity. Ideas floating around, one bubble after another.

Best wishes with whatever you decide. :up: :flower:






RussellA February 07, 2025 at 17:25 #966383
Quoting Amity
....but...do you have something in mind already?


I have a content in mind, but I want to learn how to express this content within the format of a formal philosophical essay.

The content is one thing, but the form of of a philosophical essay is another thing, and it is the formal structure of a philosophical essay that interests me at the moment. The Philosophical Writing Challenge is a perfect opportunity to try to work out how to structure a philosophical essay.

As Peter Horban wrote in Writing a Philosophy Paper, a philosophical essay is not an exercise in literary self-expression, a report of of what various scholars have said about a topic or a presentation of one's personal beliefs, but is a reasoned defence of a thesis.

But how exactly does one give a reasoned defence of a thesis?

How does one structure a reasoned defence?

As you indicated, this in part requires working out where exactly is the boundary between presenting one's personal belief in the validity of a thesis and giving a reasoned defence of one's personal belief in the validity of a thesis.
Wayfarer February 08, 2025 at 06:25 #966526
Reply to RussellA My advice would be to start with a concise paragraph expressing the point of the essay. Then sketch out headings and sub-headings, representing the progressive stages of building the argument and the steps required to establish each step. That step of building level 1, 2 and 3 headings is often helpful in structuring your content.

Also consider likely objections and your counter to them.

End with a conclusion which should state the paragraph you started with but now as a conclusion based on the preceding paragraphs.
Moliere February 08, 2025 at 07:56 #966530
Reply to RussellA I look forward to reading your contribution :)
RussellA February 08, 2025 at 08:58 #966538
Quoting Wayfarer
My advice would be to start with a concise paragraph expressing the point of the essay.


:up:

I'm going through various sources, including Dr Matt Williams' breakdown of how an essay may be graded, which I found useful.

However, I feel that even though an amateur cook and Michelin chef both follow the same New York Cheesecake recipe, the cheesecakes they end up making are more than likely to be significantly different.

Therefore, there must be something over and above the recipe itself that accounts for the difference, and that is what I am looking for.
Wayfarer February 08, 2025 at 09:13 #966539
Reply to RussellA Somethimg which you alone can provide, hence the point of the exercise!
RussellA February 08, 2025 at 09:33 #966541
Quoting Wayfarer
Somethimg which you alone can provide, hence the point of the exercise!


True. Perhaps this is the search. The search for how to transcend one's own innate and inherent abilities.
AmadeusD February 11, 2025 at 23:23 #967497
Is there any way to avoid writing on something too similar to someone else given the anonymity? Or do we not care?
Moliere February 12, 2025 at 01:21 #967537
Quoting AmadeusD
Is there any way to avoid writing on something too similar to someone else given the anonymity? Or do we not care?


We don't care -- it's more important that the writer wants to write it because that'll be the motivation for finishing it and also looking it over a bit.
Christoffer February 14, 2025 at 12:01 #968367
Quoting AmadeusD
Is there any way to avoid writing on something too similar to someone else given the anonymity? Or do we not care?


I'd say this would be more interesting as we would get two perspectives on a similar topic.
Christoffer February 14, 2025 at 12:03 #968368
Reply to Moliere

Since many aren't academics in philosophy and we've not had any rules of essay formatting for this forum, are there any good sources of inspiration for how to structure an essay in more detail?
Amity February 14, 2025 at 12:16 #968370
@Moliere

Quoting Christoffer
Since many aren't academics in philosophy and we've not had any rules of essay formatting for this forum, are there any good sources of inspiration for how to structure an essay in more detail?


I posted this earlier and in the original discussion. Perhaps, it would be an idea to include in the OP? Or simply cut to the chase [*]?

Quoting Amity
How to Read Philosophy
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/pryor-guidelines-on-reading-philosophy

How to Write Philosophy
Includes 7 links - one pdf by the highly recommended Pryor.
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/resources/writing


***

From the latter:
You needn't follow all this advice, of course. Yet some of it is likely to help. For more advice, see the following guides to writing philosophy. To be sure, there is a lot available here: Start with Lenman's "How to Write a Crap Philosophy Essay" to quickly learn what not to do; follow up with Pryor's superb "Guidelines on Writing a Philosophy Paper".

"A Brief Guide to Writing the Philosophy Paper" Harvard College Writing Center (pdf)
Peter Horban, "Writing A Philosophy Paper"
Michael Huemer, "A Guide to Writing"
James Lenman, "How to Write a Crap Philosophy Essay" (pdf, highly recommended)
Peter Lipton, "Writing Philosophy"
Adrian M.S. Piper, "Ten Commandments of Philosophical Writing" (pdf)
James Pryor, "Guidelines on Writing a Philosophy Paper" (pdf, highly recommended)


The above sources are live links in the original article.

***

[*] To cut to the chase:

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-lenman-how-to-write-a-crap-philosophy-essay.pdf

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-pryor-guidelines-on-writing-a-philosophy-paper.pdf



Amity February 14, 2025 at 12:33 #968377
Quoting Christoffer
I'd say this would be more interesting as we would get two perspectives on a similar topic.


I agree.
It's why I originally suggested a single topic for all to chew over. Like 'Imagination'.
However, an open choice gives more flexibility and whotnot.

I hope we will see a variety of views and approaches. Looking forward to reading yours, also @AmadeusD and others who are up for the challenge!

:smile: :cool:


Amity February 14, 2025 at 13:02 #968386
Reply to Wayfarer Will you be along for the ride? I hope so :sparkle:
Amity February 14, 2025 at 13:08 #968389
Quoting Wayfarer
My advice would be to start with a concise paragraph expressing the point of the essay. Then sketch out headings and sub-headings, representing the progressive stages of building the argument and the steps required to establish each step. That step of building level 1, 2 and 3 headings is often helpful in structuring your content.

Also consider likely objections and your counter to them.

End with a conclusion which should state the paragraph you started with but now as a conclusion based on the preceding paragraphs.


Thanks. I missed this good piece of advice. All easier said than done.
Do you have an example of an essay, along with its structured Outline?




Amity February 14, 2025 at 13:31 #968397
Some university sites are worth checking out. But possibly a bit too much and off-putting?
From Southampton Uni:
Posing the Question - An Academic Guide to Planning Essays
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~assets/doc/University_life/learning_teaching/posing_the_question.pdf
Moliere February 14, 2025 at 16:45 #968517
Reply to Christoffer And @Amity @Wayfarer

I've appended these guides to the original post. Are they sufficient for you Christoffer?
Amity February 14, 2025 at 17:19 #968541
Amity February 15, 2025 at 11:35 #969043
Quoting Moliere
Are they sufficient for you Christoffer?


The links provided are only a few from all that is available. People will use whatever suits them.

I know from the Lit. Activity that @Christoffer has experience in using AI and ChatGPT for research (and editing). So, easy to find answers to the question:

Quoting Christoffer
...are there any good sources of inspiration for how to structure an essay in more detail?


Quoting Christoffer
Since many aren't academics in philosophy and we've not had any rules of essay formatting for this forum,


To re-iterate. This challenge is for all. It is flexible. Open to all kinds of philosophy writing. It does not impose rules for essay formatting. However, for those that wish to use the academic form, there is plenty information out there.

Most here can find out stuff for themselves. Personal research is part of the fun of writing.

***
A simple Google for 'examples of philosophy essays: outlines' immediately brought up an AI generated Overview:

A philosophy essay outline typically includes an introduction with a clear thesis statement, a body with well-structured arguments supporting the thesis, and a conclusion that summarizes the main points and reiterates the argument; here are a few examples of philosophy essay outlines covering different topics:

[b]Example 1: "Is there a moral obligation to help the poor?" (Utilitarian perspective)
Introduction:[/b]
Define key terms: morality, obligation, poverty, utilitarianism.
Thesis statement: "Utilitarianism provides a strong moral argument for helping the poor, as maximizing overall happiness requires addressing systemic inequalities."

[b]Body:
Argument 1: Principle of Utility:[/b]
Explain the core concept of maximizing happiness in utilitarianism.
Illustrate how poverty significantly reduces happiness for many individuals.
Provide examples of how helping the poor can lead to greater overall happiness.

Argument 2: Addressing Objections:
Counterargument: "Helping the poor can incentivize dependency."
Rebuttal: Discuss potential solutions to address dependency while still providing necessary aid.
Counterargument: "Focus on individual responsibility, not systemic issues."
Rebuttal: Explain how systemic factors often contribute to poverty, requiring collective action.

Conclusion:
Summarize the main points, emphasizing the moral imperative to help the poor based on a utilitarian framework.
Acknowledge limitations or complexities of the argument, if applicable.
Conclude by reiterating the thesis statement.

***

[b]Example 2: "Can artificial intelligence achieve consciousness?" (Philosophy of Mind)
Introduction:[/b]
Define "consciousness" and key aspects of the concept.
Thesis statement: "While AI can mimic certain aspects of consciousness, it is unlikely to achieve true consciousness due to the lack of subjective experience and qualia."

[b]Body:
Argument 1: The "Hard Problem" of Consciousness:[/b]
Explain the challenge of explaining the subjective "what it is like" quality of experience.
Discuss how current AI models primarily focus on computational processes, not subjective experience.

Argument 2: The Turing Test and its Limitations:
Explain the Turing Test as a criterion for AI intelligence.
Argue that passing the Turing Test does not necessarily indicate consciousness.
Discuss limitations of the Turing Test in assessing subjective experience.

Conclusion:
Summarize the main arguments against AI consciousness, highlighting the lack of a clear understanding of the nature of consciousness itself.
Discuss potential future directions in AI research related to consciousness.

Key points to remember when creating a philosophy essay outline:
Clearly state your thesis:
Your thesis should be a focused argument that you will defend throughout the essay.

Logical structure:
Organize your arguments in a coherent manner, addressing potential counterarguments and objections.

Support with evidence:
Use relevant philosophical concepts, examples, and scholarly citations to strengthen your claims.

Precise language:
Employ clear and concise terminology when discussing philosophical ideas.

Generative AI is experimental.

flannel jesus March 04, 2025 at 16:18 #973885
Reply to Wayfarer Great advice. Simple yet powerful, just a little bit of structure puts you miles ahead of people who don't even try to plan out a structure.
Baden March 09, 2025 at 17:06 #974857
Quoting Amity
We owe so much to Baden and the Literary Activity team. They provided the basic core which evolved over the years to showcase and encourage the imagination and creativity of members. Fantastic job, well done! :fire:


Thank you. I've been on hiatus. But this has great potential and I look forward to seeing the contributions.

Amity March 09, 2025 at 19:04 #974883
Reply to Baden

Good to see you back! :smile:
Thanks for your support and encouragement. You've been missed. Terribly.

June 1st is just around the corner...

Wishing everyone all the best in this new TPF venture. Something positive to look forward to. :pray: :flower:









Sam26 March 12, 2025 at 23:18 #975671
I'm thinking about participating in this but haven't made up my mind. I would encourage people to participate, especially if they enjoy philosophy.
Moliere March 12, 2025 at 23:21 #975672
Quoting Sam26
I would encourage people to participate, especially if they enjoy philosophy.


I encourage you to participate on that basis, else fall into performative contradiction ;)

But, yes -- my thinking is that it ought be a celebration of the philosophical creative mind, and not necessarily the "greatest" paper ever or whatever that might mean. I promise to give constructive feedback to any entrant, as in I'll try to improve the essay from the perspective of the writer writing it, as the "hook".

But I say that because I look forward to reading lots of brave and original philosophy essays from our people.
Vera Mont March 13, 2025 at 00:05 #975683
I have gone from one probable topic to four possibles. I've done a little bit of research on all of them. ATM, I'm leaning toward the last. *sigh* More reading. But the very idea is a great motivator to learn, and I'm sure there will be a heap more learning when the essays are in.
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 08:25 #976996
Reply to Vera Mont
I do empathise because I have thought about topics and rejected these later. It is so hard because so many philosophy issues are or have been tackled in threads.

Also, with an essay it seems that there is a need to come up with an independent view. I had one idea but have since decided it is a bit sensitive to tackle on a public forum. If I do write it I would have to write it with care, which would be more important than using artificial intelligence to edit it.

I definitely hope to contribute to the activity as a writing challenge, but it feels a bit daunting. At the time thè competition was posted it seemed such a long way away but we are in late March already. I will enter if I have something specific to say, and at the moment I am waiting for inspiration.
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 09:10 #976998
Reply to Amity Reply to Moliere
As having difficulty choosing a topic, I do wonder if having a theme (or several) would have made the activity seem less daunting. At one point, I remember that I'magination' was suggested but I think it was dismissed. Anyone could choose to use it as a prompt although it may be seen as unimaginive to do so.

Do you think that some prompt topics or questions would help more people to participante? When I go to a creative writing group some prompts are given and everyone finds it helpful in getting started. I am not suggesting that the use of the prompts should be obligatory, but just wonder if it would help rather than being in front of a blank page, with the whole field of philosophy for choice.
Amity March 19, 2025 at 09:11 #976999
Quoting Vera Mont
I have gone from one probable topic to four possibles. I've done a little bit of research on all of them. ATM, I'm leaning toward the last. *sigh* More reading.


Hey, yes! I've found it is easy to swerve from one topic to another in the middle of doing the research. Research is, of course, never wasted - it just means you begin to know more about a topic and realise there's more to it than you thought! You either dig in and keep to your original 'passion' or move on.
It's good to have more background and knowledge under your belt, all the better to respond to readers.

Quoting Vera Mont
But the very idea is a great motivator to learn, and I'm sure there will be a heap more learning when the essays are in.


Absolutely! As readers, we can focus on the ideas, appreciate the effort and ask questions if we don't understand what is being presented.




Amity March 19, 2025 at 09:38 #977000
Quoting Jack Cummins
As having difficulty choosing a topic, I do wonder if having a theme (or several) would have made the activity seem less daunting. At one point, I remember that I'magination' was suggested but I think it was dismissed. Anyone could choose to use it as a prompt although


Of course, you can use your imagination to discuss or explore 'Imagination' or 'Creativity' any way you want. You are interested in Art and Music and all kinds of psychology/philosophy. Perhaps look for any links and follow a quote or lyric from a song. 'All you need is love' - Discuss. :wink:

Quoting Jack Cummins
it may be seen as animaginive to do so.
Do you think that some prompt topics or questions would help? When I go to a creative writing group some prompts are given and everyone finds it helpful in getting started. I am not suggesting that the use of the prompts should be obligatory, but just wonder if it would help rather than being in front of a blank page, with the whole field of philosophy for choice.


Quoting Jack Cummins
It is so hard because so many philosophy issues are or have been tackled in threads.


You can use previous discussions as a springboard. Similar issues from a different perspective.
TPF posters who have a passion for particular topic/s can use their past, present thoughts and writings - but not to simply copy and paste, otherwise what's the point.

The creative spirit of the event is foremost. You are in a new moment and can take anything in a new direction. It's supposed to be enjoyed.
You have plenty of spark :cool:

Quoting Jack Cummins
with an essay it seems that there is a need to come up with an independent view. I had one idea but have since decided it is a bit sensitive to tackle on a public forum. If I do write it I would have to write it with care, which would be more important than using artificial intelligence to edit it.


To start with all you need is your view! Then look at what others have said. Reflect on similarities or differences and come to a conclusion.

Just a few thoughts. I'm sure others have more. Brainstorm stuff that is currently on your mind and how it makes you and others feel...

You can do this! :100: :sparkle:







Amity March 19, 2025 at 09:50 #977001
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 09:56 #977003
Reply to Amity
Yes, imagination and creativity are possible topics. The other brainstorm ideas I have are the relationship between philosophy and psychiatry, as well as the autobiographical experience of philosophy.

I am wondering if others may wish to brainstorm too, but I realise many may wish to keep their ideas to themselves, for fear of others pinching them. Also, please note that, I am not disclosing what I am writing about because I have mentioned a few and others may choose to tackle them too. I also have some othier ideas and may come up with more before June. I hope to contribute but too much stress may prevent me. (Around lockdown I had so much more time and life seems more difficult than I have ever known in England, which may stifle so much creativity).

The topic of 'All You Need is Love' may be a good one because so much trouble in the world may possibly be killing love and compassion. This may be a sweeping statement but many people I know seem to be becoming far more self absorbed and self-centred after the pandemic and in the context of the cost of living crisis.
Amity March 19, 2025 at 10:05 #977004
Quoting Moliere
my thinking is that it ought be a celebration of the philosophical creative mind, and not necessarily the "greatest" paper ever or whatever that might mean. I promise to give constructive feedback to any entrant, as in I'll try to improve the essay from the perspective of the writer writing it, as the "hook".

But I say that because I look forward to reading lots of brave and original philosophy essays from our people.


Yes. A celebration of creative minds and a mix of ideas. To write or read something that might slant you from your usual viewpoint. A topic not 'original' (how can it be?) but a new way of looking for you and others. Listening, even if it sounds discordant. Creating form and content, academic or different, using the imagination...

Even the ordinary can be 'brave', if it's a first attempt or one to make the mundane magical.
And challenging to keep it within the realms of philosophy. Depending on what you think that involves. There's a topic in itself!

Improving an 'essay from the perspective of the writer' - as the 'hook'?
I'm not sure what that means?
Do you mean to lead the discussion of the essay, to set it off in a positive direction, one of substance.
Rather than the trigger-happy knee-jerk reactions that can occur in threads?





RussellA March 19, 2025 at 10:06 #977006
Quoting Jack Cummins
Also, with an essay it seems that there is a need to come up with an independent view.


As I see it:

A philosophy essay is a specific thing and is not the same thing as a literary essay. This is a "Philosophy writing challenge". In a philosophy essay, one starts with a thesis about which one makes a claim and then defends it.

In fact, it is not even necessary to believe the claim that you are making, as long as you make a strong argument for it.

For example, the thesis could be "The public are better off under an Oligarchy than a Democracy" You could either defend this claim, oppose this claim or claim that sometimes Oligarchies are better than Democracies. Whichever claim you are making, you need to support your claim with a strong argument.

Perhaps a philosophy essay is more about your reasoned defence of your claim than the actual topic itself.

As regards independent view, I am assuming that an essay of say 2,000 words at undergraduate level will be more suitable than a PhD Dissertation of say 100,000 words. This affects what is meant by "independent view".

In an undergraduate philosophy essay, the writer is not expected to independently develop a new philosophical idea, but is expected to show independence of thinking in reasoning about existing philosophical ideas.

There is a difference between having a view that is independent of current philosophical ideas and having an independent view about current philosophical ideas.

For example:
1) You could begin with a declarative statement expressing your opinion "The public are better off under an Oligarchy than a Democracy"
2) Then i) give the main evidence that supports your claim and ii) your reasons why this evidence supports your claim.
3) Then give one or two main counter-arguments
4) Then give reasons why you rebut these counter-arguments
5) Finish by summarising your reasons why the evidence supports your claim and your reasons for rebutting the counter-arguments.

As an exercise in writing a philosophy essay, you could defend a claim that you don't even believe in, as long as you made a persuasive case.
RussellA March 19, 2025 at 10:13 #977008
Quoting Jack Cummins
The topic of 'All You Need is Love' may be a good one


Let thesis = "All you need is love"

Let your claim = I argue that all you need is love

In a couple of thousand words, persuade me.
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 10:15 #977009
Reply to RussellA
I do agree with you really as a clear independent position may require thesis. . The only problem is many on this forum have studied philosophy at postgraduate level and beyond. Also, there are many who are published writers, so the standard may be extremely high. I have noticed in the last year, that the forum has become more academic. That is good in many respects as opposed to 'armchair philosophy'. The only danger is that it may become elitist.
RussellA March 19, 2025 at 10:24 #977011
Quoting Jack Cummins
I have noticed in the last year, that the forum has become more academic...............................The only danger is that it may become elitist.


This gives a possible thesis: "The Academic elitist world-view is bad for society"
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 10:25 #977012
Reply to RussellA
Actually, it may be hard to defend the view that ' All you need is Love' in 2000 words. I am already in dialogue with a friend, or ex- friend about it. The reason why I add'ex-friend' is because in lockdown he decided that he is in ceasefire from people. He has self-diagnosed himself with autism. He sees all forms of empathy and kindness as false and about 'people pleasing'. His own focus is on getting what he wants out of the system.

This Is fairly Nietzschean, but it may be hard to challenge. The 'social contract' may be a possible source of argument, but it may not be holding up in a time of societal fragmentation
Jack Cummins March 19, 2025 at 10:29 #977013
Reply to RussellA
Yes, a critique of academic elitism may be worth exploring. I am not sure whether I feel up to it, but you never know and, maybe, someone will.
Amity March 19, 2025 at 10:33 #977014
Quoting Jack Cummins
it may be hard to defend the view that ' All you need is Love' in 2000 words.


You have a max of 5,000 words. Stop looking for excuses!
Write as if you were starting a thread, think of a head-bangin' OP, expand and chill out :pray: :flower:
Remember, this is not a competition. There will be a wide spectrum of writers doing their own thing. Within the guidelines. Think and feel your way through...it's all a story...pick another song.
RussellA March 19, 2025 at 10:53 #977016
Quoting Jack Cummins
Actually, it may be hard to defend the view that ' All you need is Love' in 2000 words


Perhaps that's what would make it a good thesis for a philosophy essay.

The Thread allows 5,000 words, but the Seán Radcliffe essay that won him the 2023 Irish Young Philosopher Awards Grand Prize and Philosopher of Our Time Award was only about 1,500 words.

A philosophy essay is a dialogue between the author and the reader, and there may not be a correct or definitive answer, as long as the essay is well-argued within a logical structure.

The philosophy essay wants your personal opinion, a little bit of evidence for your opinion, a reason or two why this evidence is relevant, one or two obvious counter-arguments and a reason or two why you rebut the counter-arguments.

Perhaps "academic" just means a well-argued claim within a logical structure.
Amity March 19, 2025 at 11:17 #977025
Quoting RussellA
the Seán Radcliffe essay that won him the 2023 Irish Young Philosopher Awards Grand Prize and Philosopher of Our Time Award was only about 1,500 words.


Yes. To read again, for inspiration:
Plato’s Cave & Social Media
Seán Radcliffe asks, has Plato’s Allegory of the Cave been warning us of social media for 2,400 years?
https://philosophynow.org/issues/165/Platos_Cave_and_Social_Media


Moliere March 19, 2025 at 16:43 #977104
Quoting Jack Cummins
As having difficulty choosing a topic, I do wonder if having a theme (or several) would have made the activity seem less daunting. At one point, I remember that I'magination' was suggested but I think it was dismissed. Anyone could choose to use it as a prompt although it may be seen as unimaginive to do so.


I'm good with spinning out some possible topics for help here in this thread insofar that we all are thinking together.


Moliere March 20, 2025 at 02:33 #977184
Mostly, though, I want people who are interested in the idea to participate; insofar that the "rules" enhance participation then thems the rules we should adopt.

In terms of choosing a topic: I think the format of "ask a question, answer a question" is good.

In terms of topics -- well, I already said I think it's a good idea to throw out topics. So say what topics you want! :D

"What is thinking worth in our political era?", "Why are we tempted to say that mathematics are universal?", "What are the reasons, if there are any, for our belief that Shakespeare is good?"

But we can still brainstorm topics here

It's not yet June ;)

And 500 words is a small ask. So treat this exercise as a small topic.
RussellA March 20, 2025 at 08:42 #977209
Quoting Moliere
"Why are we tempted to say that mathematics are universal?"


Another useful source here

Question = "Why are we tempted to say that mathematics are universal?"

Why not do a Boris Johnson and write 500 words defending one's claim that "I argue that mathematics is not universal" and then another 500 words defending one's claim that "I argue that mathematics is universal".

From Reuters, London
Boris Johnson, who campaigned prominently for Britain to leave the European Union ahead of a June referendum, argued in favour of remaining in the bloc in an unpublished newspaper column two days before backing Brexit, according to a newspaper report.


As Sun Tzu wrote:
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
Amity March 20, 2025 at 09:15 #977211
Quoting Moliere
And 500 words is a small ask.


Are you sure about that? :chin:

I'm reminded of the 'flash fiction' or micro fiction of the short story competition.
A few from Dec 2022:
Sundae, Bloody Sundae by @Baden
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/13727/sundae-bloody-sundae-by-baden/p1
In the Wake of the Moriscos by @Jamal
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/13718/in-the-wake-of-the-moriscos-by-jamal/p1

I think can be harder to be concise. As well as knowing what you want to write, it requires skill and discipline to keep things simple, creative and enjoyable.

In philosophy writing, I think it is difficult to make substantial points in 500 words.
That means that you need to strip ideas down to the basics. I would say the meat of the matter but isn't it more the bones?

It is a great exercise in reading a philosopher's text. To reach the salient points. To find the Premises and Conclusions. To know and understand the Views and Arguments. But then to focus on a single issue and cover that well, giving it full attention. No need to say everything.

That is one way - the more academic. Basically coming to a conclusion as to whether you agree/disagree and explaining why.

Less formally, it might be a simple letter, an exchange, letting someone know what your philosophy is.
Perhaps a dialogue with a friend. Perhaps more practical. Or mythical. A wisdom piece. A puzzle.
You can state your position and justification about...anything!

I found this:
https://lessfoolish.substack.com/p/500-word-philosophy
and a linked essay example:
Life Philosophy

Be that Philosophy Phlasher. Hell, yeah! :fire: :cool: :monkey:











Amity March 20, 2025 at 09:42 #977217
Quoting RussellA
Why not do a Boris Johnson and write 500 words defending one's claim that "I argue that mathematics is not universal" and then another 500 words defending one's claim that "I argue that mathematics is universal".


I like the idea of an essay in two halves. or even 4 quarters and a bit.
Is it true that 'All you need is love'?

First half - the academic structure style and content.
Second half - the less formal.

Which is the most persuasive, interesting and why? Hmm...





RussellA March 20, 2025 at 11:44 #977225
Quoting Amity
I like the idea of an essay in two halves. or even 4 quarters and a bit. Is it true that 'All you need is love'?


Question = All you need is love?

Possible claim = I argue that all you need is love.

I agree. Perhaps at its core a philosophy essay is about making a claim and logically defending it, regardless of whether in a formal or informal style.

I personally don't agree that all you need is love, so I would be interested in being persuaded otherwise.
Amity March 20, 2025 at 12:05 #977227
Quoting RussellA
I personally don't agree that all you need is love, so I would be interested in being persuaded otherwise.


I think it is a silly claim and not one I will be making!
However, this surprisingly lengthy piece about the Beatles song is fascinating:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Love

***

Until today, I had no idea that 'flash philosophy' was a thing.
I found this: 'Cutting-edge philosophy in bite-sized pieces':

https://flashphilosophy.com/
Essays range from a 1min to a 5min read:

1. Harman’s False Dichotomy
2. Nagel’s Question-Begging Argument on the Badness of Death
3. Identity Pleas and Excuses
4. Anticipating Gettier
5. The Paradox of Personal Identity
6. Getting Gettier Wrong

7. Sight and light - Quoting Flash philosophy
(This post was excerpted, with Audi’s permission, from his Epistemology: A Contemporary Introduction to the Theory of Knowledge. It’s an excellent example of how it is possible to make an interesting and even important philosophical point in very few words.)


8. More “Constancies” in Visual Perception
9. Determinacy and the Self





RussellA March 20, 2025 at 12:48 #977231
Quoting Amity
I think it is a silly claim and not one I will be making!


However, perhaps that is exactly the claim to make. If you can persuade others about a claim you think is silly, then it should be a cake walk to persuade others about a claim you think sensible.

When writing a philosophy essay, it is perhaps not essential to believe in your claim, only to logically argue for your claim.

If someone else can then make their own logical argument why your claim is silly, you can then take their argument on board and adjust your own position. An example of SpaceX's Rapid Design Iteration.

Dr Matt Williams of Jesus College Oxford made the point that he felt he always achieved high marks because he sometimes started with an outlandish claim which he argued well.

Quoting Amity
Until today, I had no idea that 'flash philosophy' was a thing.


Thanks for the link. I had never come across the concept before.
Amity March 20, 2025 at 16:53 #977284
Quoting RussellA
Dr Matt Williams of Jesus College Oxford made the point that he felt he always achieved high marks because he sometimes started with an outlandish claim which he argued well.


Thank you!
Excellent video (19mins) showing the importance of structure, as in making a case to convince a 'jury'.
Important if you are a lawyer representing a client and arguing for the 'Not Guilty verdict. Or v.v.

As you say:Quoting RussellA
When writing a philosophy essay, it is perhaps not essential to believe in your claim, only to logically argue for your claim.


At 16:05, he highlights the point that 'it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what you can prove'. So, even if you think the client is guilty, you must do your job effectively and successfully.
By making and taking a clear and logical path to the conclusion.

***

Later, it is not an 'outlandish claim' he makes, rather he presents a negative view to the claim that 'Democracy causes growth'. At 16:34, there is a differently structured argument for:
'Democracy cannot cause growth'.

Everything in this presentation is clear, concise and well explained.

***

I agree that it can be a good exercise to play devil's advocate. Arguing against a popular idea can provoke and test the opposing arguments. It can help clarify your position.

But you still haven't persuaded me to write an essay arguing that 'All you need is Love', sorry!
Why? Just because! :joke: I've been going down a 'rabbit-hole' of my own making.

Talking of which, didn't you just love his 'bunny ears' - to highlight the important words to focus on in any debate. Also, his replies to BTL questions:

I agree that several words in the questions are ambiguous. But the ones that I highlighted were the focus of each debate.

In the analogy I gave to a court trial, the words guilty/not guilty would focus debate there. Similarly, the words highlighted by bunny ears were the main focus of what everyone is and should be arguing about when responding to that question. It is absolutely fine to pick on other ambiguous terms in the question, provided that you are focused on the core debate.


[ About 'bunny ears. Don't they tend to be 'single' in English essays, rather than the American "doubles''?]


Quoting RussellA
Thanks for the link. I had never come across the concept before.


My pleasure. Enjoying the conversation but I must get on with reading...










Baden March 21, 2025 at 14:34 #977505
Quoting Amity
I think can be harder to be concise. As well as knowing what you want to write, it requires skill and discipline to keep things simple, creative and enjoyable.


Yes, often some poetic, or at least lyrical, skill. I'm thinking particularly of the aphorisms of Nietzsche and Cioran here. I like that approach, but it doesn't quite fit with the idea of a philosophical essay.
Amity March 22, 2025 at 09:04 #977722
Quoting Baden
I'm thinking particularly of the aphorisms of Nietzsche and Cioran here. I like that approach, but it doesn't quite fit with the idea of a philosophical essay.


Hmm. Yes. Aphorisms are clearly too short to be an essay but they still contain philosophical meaning and can be expanded on. What are the concerning issues? Why are they written at a particular time. How do we make sense of them without talking to the author? Is it all down to individual interpretation?

Why do you like the approach? That way of writing, reading, reflection?
Perhaps, that might be an interesting project. To write an essay full of aphorisms and explain? Or not.

I don't know anything about Cioran. So, turned first to TPF Search box, then Wiki:

Two threads, started by @schopenhauer1
1. 6yrs ago: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/6104/e-m-cioran-aphorism-analysis/p1
2. 2yrs ago: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/14398/whats-the-implications-of-this-e-m-cioran-quote/p1

***

Quoting Wiki - Cioran
Aphorisms make up a large portion of Cioran's bibliography, and some of his books, such as The Trouble with Being Born, are composed entirely of aphorisms. Speaking about this decision, Cioran said:

I only write this kind of stuff, because explaining bores me terribly. That's why I say when I've written aphorisms it's that I've sunk back into fatigue, why bother. And so, the aphorism is scorned by "serious" people, the professors look down upon it. When they read a book of aphorisms, they say, "Oh, look what this fellow said ten pages back, now he's saying the contrary. He's not serious."

Me, I can put two aphorisms that are contradictory right next to each other. Aphorisms are also momentary truths. They're not decrees. And I could tell you in nearly every case why I wrote this or that phrase, and when. It's always set in motion by an encounter, an incident, a fit of temper, but they all have a cause. It's not at all gratuitous.


There are contradictions, sometimes depending on mood or emotion. Physical, mental or psychological state. Context and circumstance. Some readers might fix/ate on one that appeals to their own philosophy of life, or way of thinking. They might see only what they want to see. Or those that fit with their experience. And make arguments accordingly. Cue never-ending speculations.

TPF threads are a good starting point but they can fizzle out in frustration.
I think the June event might provide a way to enlighten in a substantial way, in careful dialogue.
Are you up for it @Baden? @schopenhauer1? Go on. We need creative stimulation :cool: :wink:





RussellA March 22, 2025 at 09:16 #977723
Quoting Baden
I'm thinking particularly of the aphorisms of Nietzsche and Cioran here. I like that approach, but it doesn't quite fit with the idea of a philosophical essay.


A philosophy essay logically defends a claim. Nietzsche used the aphoristic style to free himself from a metaphysical search for the fundamental nature of reality. Must all philosophy essays be about the metaphysical search for the fundamental nature of reality? Discuss.
Amity March 22, 2025 at 09:20 #977724
Quoting RussellA
Must all philosophy essays be about the metaphysical search for the fundamental nature of reality? Discuss.


Hey there. You keep coming up with ideas for an essay. How are you getting on with yours?

Amity March 22, 2025 at 09:31 #977725
Quoting Amity
Until today, I had no idea that 'flash philosophy' was a thing.
I found this: 'Cutting-edge philosophy in bite-sized pieces':

https://flashphilosophy.com/
Essays range from a 1min to a 5min read:


@Jamal -
Your flash fiction is excellent. Do you think you could be a flash philosopher?

I hope other TPF short story writers will take part...chilling out and being imaginative.
Using different styles of engagement.


RussellA March 22, 2025 at 09:46 #977726
Quoting Amity
You keep coming up with ideas for an essay. How are you getting on with yours?


At the moment an actual essay is taking second place to trying to understand what a "Philosophy Essay" actually is.

I am going through various guides to "How to write a philosophy essay" and trying to tabulate what these guides have in common.

Every so often I make a post including my understanding of what a "Philosophy Essay" is in the expectation of being shot down.
Amity March 22, 2025 at 10:10 #977727
Quoting RussellA
At the moment an actual essay is taking second place to trying to understand what a "Philosophy Essay" actually is.


Really? Oh dear. From all your posts, it seems you have a good enough understanding.
It is not necessary, or even desired, to write the perfect, academic essay! Unless that is what your aim is.
From the guidelines:
Quoting Moliere
4) Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay. The Essay's Title and Topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. It should be systematic with an Introduction, Main Body and Conclusion. This is non-fiction. Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.


Quoting RussellA
Every so often I make a post including my understanding of what a "Philosophy Essay" is in the expectation of being shot down.


You won't be shot down. Because this is an open, free and easy environment. Practically, anything goes!
Given your 'fixation', that could easily be the topic of your essay.

Write about whatever you are interested in. What questions excite or intrigue you enough to share?
Which philosopher do you agree/disagree with and why? What attracts/repels you?

At this point, I have started reading and researching my chosen topic.
This takes time. To reflect and take notes.
I have a basic, rough outline in my head of what I want to include. I don't intend for my essay to be long!
But who knows...things change...

And I am allowing myself to be distracted. Again! :roll:






RussellA March 22, 2025 at 12:35 #977739
Quoting Amity
It is not necessary, or even desired, to write the perfect, academic essay! Unless that is what your aim is.


I want to know how to write the perfect, academic philosophy essay, even if it is beyond my ability.

I have the essay's title and am aiming at 2,000 words. For the rest of this month probably tabulating what should be included in a good philosophy essay and will start researching next month.

As with SpaceX's Iterative Design Process, perhaps being shot down occasionally is part of the learning process.

Quoting Amity
Because this is an open, free and easy environment


It's good to have an open environment. However, I do avoid political threads on the Forum because they generally break the spirit of what a philosophy essay should be, in that claims are often made with minimal effort in justifying them with either evidence or reasoned argument.
Amity March 22, 2025 at 12:44 #977741
Quoting RussellA
I have the essay's title and am aiming at 2,000 words. For the rest of this month probably tabulating what should be included in a good philosophy essay and will start researching next month.


OK. It seems you have it all under control. Best wishes! :sparkle: :flower:
Baden March 22, 2025 at 13:02 #977744
Quoting Amity
Are you up for it Baden?


I'm up for burying you in a mountain of aphorisms if you so desire.

Amity March 22, 2025 at 13:13 #977747
Quoting Baden
I'm up for burying you in a mountain of aphorisms if you so desire.


:smile: Yeah, baby! Covered in ice-cream and a splashing of strawberry sauce.
"Bon appetit." :yum: :party:
Vera Mont March 23, 2025 at 03:08 #977900
I'm still trying to figure out the where the line is between philosophy and psychology.
Ice cream sounds better than either.
Amity March 24, 2025 at 07:46 #978174
Quoting Vera Mont
I'm still trying to figure out the where the line is between philosophy and psychology.
Ice cream sounds better than either.


As you know, a clear distinction is found in academia.

However, the line is blurry and there is much overlap. I immediately think of Stoicism and CBT:
https://simplyputpsych.co.uk/global-psych/how-stoicism-aligns-with-cognitive-behavioural-therapy

But I guess your concern lies more in the content of whatever you are writing for this event.
How 'philosophical' is it? It depends on your view of philosophy. The focus of your interest.
Your chosen topic and the aspects that catch your imagination.

I was once accused of trying to 'psychologise' someone. I think I was questioning intentions or motivations for a belief, or text, and its implications for the self and others. Personality and behaviour.

I think I argued that these factors are as important as the concept, theory or claim being discussed.
If philosophy is about the human condition and how best to live our lives. To examine and understand underlying assumptions and prejudice. Then, it involves asking holistic questions about ourselves and interactions with people and the environment.

Philosophy writing, then.
I think it must start with a philosophical idea or concept to be explored, discussed or analysed.
And/or a particular philosopher's view and arguments. Compared to your own.
A concern re happiness or badness or busyness or an -ism/ist.
What inspires you to write?

What gets and keeps you going? Ice-cream?
So many questions, theories and experiences to be considered, huh.
So many ways to describe and share. But sometimes it all comes down to taste. Aesthetics.

Quoting Vera Mont
Ice cream sounds better than either.


You can have it all! :cool:

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - said Socrates, licking an ice-cream cone...
























RussellA March 24, 2025 at 09:37 #978185
Quoting Amity
Philosophy writing, then. I think it must start with a philosophical idea or concept to be explored, discussed or analysed. And/or a particular philosopher's view and arguments. Compared to your own.


Perhaps this also:

What is philosophy?
Philosophy has two aspects. First, the study of fundamental questions such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. Second, thinking deeply and critically about the topic using evidence, and clear, logical reasoning about this evidence. (based on GPT 4o)

What is a philosophy essay?
A philosophy essay starts with a thesis. The thesis is about a specific philosophical question, concept or argument. The essay then defends or explores this thesis using evidence and clear, logical reasoning about the evidence. The essay should question assumptions implicit within the thesis, engage with different viewpoints and explore implications if the thesis is true. (based on GPT 4o)

Curious what proportion of the Philosophy Forum fulfils these criteria, including my own posts.

But do these definitions exclude Friedrich Nietzsche, the German philosopher, who used a blend of philosophy, poetry and personal reflection?

Also, do these definitions exclude Jacques Derrida, the French philosopher, who argued that language is inherently unstable and challenged the idea of absolute logical certainty?

The problem with excluding logic is that my feelings about a topic are equal to your feelings about the same topic, and it then comes down to who can shout the loudest.
Vera Mont March 24, 2025 at 15:26 #978214
Thanks for the advice. It does help.

Quoting Amity
What inspires you to write?


The fascinating, complicated, up-and-down craziness of humanity. Religion, art, science, and philosophy are all products of that curly ball of gray fluff in our heads. And they're all connected by skinny electric wires covered in myelin, as well as by evolutionary and cultural roots and words, so many ambiguous words! Dividing them into clearly distinct categories is a Solomonian task.

I've been musing over Aldous Huxley's The Perennial Philosophy in which, on the subject of religions, he makes no severe cuts between philosophy and psychology; his question is only, "by which door to enter". I figure, if it was good enough for him, it'll do me well enough.

As for ice cream, I have maybe two helpings throughout a summer; I come alive on European beer.
(Socrates was dead wrong, btw: a miserable life is worth examining for possible improvement; a happy one doesn't require analysis. If it ain't broke, keep your mitts off of it!)
Amity March 31, 2025 at 09:21 #979810
Hey there! It's the last day in March. Only 61 days to go. :monkey: :smile:

Quoting Moliere
8) Deadline for submissions is May 31st 23:59 GMT
9) All entries will be posted on June 1st.


Reply to RussellA You continue to raise interesting questions and perspectives. I hope your essay is progressing well. Update?

Quoting Vera Mont
Thanks for the advice. It does help.


Glad to help. A pity I don't take my own advice. I am struggling. I feel out of my depth. But your invigorating writing keeps me going. Thanks.

Quoting Vera Mont
The fascinating, complicated, up-and-down craziness of humanity. Religion, art, science, and philosophy are all products of that curly ball of gray fluff in our heads. And they're all connected by skinny electric wires covered in myelin, as well as by evolutionary and cultural roots and words, so many ambiguous words! Dividing them into clearly distinct categories is a Solomonian task.


Yeah, them damn categories, theories and consequences.
It is a challenge when it comes to their analysis and synthesis, even in an 'ickle TPF essay.

Here's one Critical Thinking Model:
Quoting Ulster University - Critical Thinking, Analysis and Synthesis
In order to help you develop your critical thinking, you can use the critical thinking model, developed by Plymouth University (2006).
The model is does not need to be used in a linear way, or as a prescriptive set of instructions.
It should be used to trigger and encourage a questioning approach to your studies.
It can be applied to many different academic scenarios, such as interpreting assignment briefs, reading sources, developing arguments and problem solving.


***

Quoting Vera Mont
(Socrates was dead wrong, btw: a miserable life is worth examining for possible improvement; a happy one doesn't require analysis. If it ain't broke, keep your mitts off of it!)


Well, there's another juicy topic to consider...

Quoting Vera Mont
I come alive on European beer.


European beer, huh? Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs...

I once fought the Atlantic courtesy of Stella Artois... *nostalgic sighs*

To all would-be, perhaps, maybe, definite participants - "We Can Do This!" :party:




RussellA March 31, 2025 at 10:09 #979813
Quoting Amity
I hope your essay is progressing well. Update?


Have managed to reduce my "how to write a philosophy essay" down to eight pages. Have starting researching, which gave me my plan. A bit more research then starting to write. Am learning, which is the main thing (using ??? for anonymity)

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Amity March 31, 2025 at 19:01 #979893
Quoting RussellA
Have managed to reduce my "how to write a philosophy essay" down to eight pages. Have starting researching, which gave me my plan. A bit more research then starting to write. Am learning, which is the main thing (using ??? for anonymity)


Wow. You have been busy! :sparkle:

Yes. Learning not only about the essay topic but 'how to write an academic philosophy essay'. :up:
Seems like a well-balanced and ordered outline for a 2,000 word essay.
10% each for Intro and Conclusion. The remaining 1600 words split equally between the 4 paragraphs in the Main Body (400 each). Would it be better to call them Sections? :chin:

Each paragraph relating to a key point that you have decided relevant and ties in with the title.
I read somewhere that academic paragraphs are usually 200-300 words long, but I think it depends on the individual. As long as it works and there is a logical flow or story leading to the Conclusion!

A great way to maintain focus during the writing process. And then, there's the revising and editing. :cool:










Vera Mont April 01, 2025 at 03:29 #979967
Quoting Amity
European beer, huh? Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs...

We're still friends with Germany, Holland and Denmark, so that's all right. I find American beer insipid. Anyway, it's already more expensive than some of the Europeans. Oddly, so is the Canadian stuff, which isn't bad to drink. Since I haven't been able to drink anything stronger, I've become quite familiar with beer.

I don't think I can write an academic essay. So far, I've referenced only one philosopher on the subject, which has not been of general interest to philosophers, and I'm hard put to find a rebuttal. I'll probably just have pants it.
RussellA April 02, 2025 at 10:29 #980178
Quoting Vera Mont
So far, I've referenced only one philosopher on the subject, which has not been of general interest to philosophers, and I'm hard put to find a rebuttal.


Can you slightly adjust the wording of your thesis such that you can find three philosophers that support it and one philosopher that opposes it?

If you can, then:

Write the 200 word Introduction in the future tense after you have written the Body.

Write the 200 word Conclusion in the past tense after you have written the Body.

Imagine a Body of four sections, each of 400 words. The first three sections based on three philosophers that support your thesis. The fourth section based on a philosopher that opposes your thesis.

Consider a typical 400 word section. An introduction of 20 words written after you have written the body of the section. A summary of 20 words also written after you have written the body of the section.

This leaves 360 words for the body of the section. The first 180 words describing the philosopher's position regarding your thesis. The second 180 words giving your thoughts about the philosopher's position, including why you think their argument is valid and where you think their argument can be improved.

Would this work?
Amity April 02, 2025 at 11:58 #980185
Quoting Vera Mont
I don't think I can write an academic essay.


Well don't!
Philosophy writing is wider and brighter. It still needs a structure like any story but that you can do.
For some reason, I was thinking of the hunger and appetites of a reader.

Quoting Vera Mont
I've referenced only one philosopher on the subject, which has not been of general interest to philosophers, and I'm hard put to find a rebuttal.


Even better and more satisfying to read something fresh like a Red Riding Hood.
Read and listen to Roald Dahl:
https://childrens.poetryarchive.org/poem/little-red-riding-hood-and-the-wolf/

One philosopher might be more than enough to chew through :wink:
Rebuttals can come from anywhere, no? Bang, bang! :scream:
Play around with the topic in the Arts, Literature, Music...Science...

Make believe. From the innocence of childhood, playing games...to the treachery of adulthood.
Cher - Bang bang (my baby shot me down) 1966 [2:47]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfyBHZc9rK4

Remember, it's all a story...with or without a definite conclusion. Open ended...for further exploration.
Philosophy is a Conversation. Here, writers and readers can be in close dialogue or a wild dance!

Amity April 02, 2025 at 12:38 #980192
Quoting Vera Mont
I'm hard put to find a rebuttal.


Have you tried Google Scholar? You can type in your topic or a concept in the Search box:
https://scholar.google.com/

Or:
Quoting Jeff Maynes - How to Do Research in Philosophy
...here I will focus on how to find your way with a new research question, and in particular, how to find sources.

First Steps
The first step in doing philosophical research is to hone your question and research terms. This is important because databases can only search the terms that you provide, they cannot search based on what you really meant to search for. You’ll want to know the terms that philosophers working on that question use, so that can more easily find some initial sources. A few ways you can get started:...
[...]
Once you’ve got your sense of the debate, and you know some keywords, it is time to look for articles. There are two basic strategies for finding articles.

Following the Conversation
The first is to look to the bibliographies of the sources you’ve found (including the secondary literature). Philosophy is a conversation - philosophers are typically writing in response to the ideas and arguments of other philosophers. This means that following the references can help you find work by other philosophers on the same questions you are interested in.

Heading into the databases
Your other option is to search the databases using your keywords. The primary databases for Philosophy are Philosopher’s Index, and PhilPapers...
Philosopher’s Index is an EBSCO database, which means that you search not only philosophy articles, but articles in other disciplines at the same time


Vera Mont April 02, 2025 at 17:27 #980250
Reply to RussellA
Thanks; that sounds like a great wast to organize an essay. But I don't think that works for me. A chatbot could do it far better than I can.
Quoting Amity
Remember, it's all a story...with or without a definite conclusion. Open ended...for further exploration.
Philosophy is a Conversation. Here, writers and readers can be in close dialogue or a wild dance!

That sound more like my neighbourhood.
PS I love Roald Dahl.
RussellA April 03, 2025 at 14:39 #980417
Quoting Amity
Remember, it's all a story...with or without a definite conclusion. Open ended...for further exploration. Philosophy is a Conversation. Here, writers and readers can be in close dialogue or a wild dance


Yes, but I am not sure about "with or without a definite conclusion".

A philosophy essay is about making a claim and then defending it.

There must be a thesis, such as "I intend to argue that J.J.C. Smart’s criticism of rule utilitarianism is correct because, as he argues, there are clearly some cases where it is optimific to break a generally optimific rule"

There must be a conclusion, such as "I have argued that J.J.C. Smart’s criticisms of rule utilitarianism are correct"
Amity April 03, 2025 at 15:46 #980424
Quoting RussellA
Yes, but I am not sure about "with or without a definite conclusion".


Thank you for questioning.

Quoting RussellA
A philosophy essay is about making a claim and then defending it.


I agree that an academic philosophy essay tends to have this formal structure and aim. And I look forward to reading contributions like this.

However, this June event is wider. It is about philosophy writing.

Quoting RussellA
There must be a conclusion, such as "I have argued that J.J.C. Smart’s criticisms of rule utilitarianism are correct"


Yes. This is a conclusion at the end of one kind of academic essay. It states what has been done. It gives a summary of the main points of the argument. It reinforces the initial claim.
And, yes, it is a closed conclusion.

However, other essays and philosophy writing do not have the aim of providing a definitive answer. Their conclusions are open-ended.

It depends on the question or issue being discussed or analysed; its complexity and the creative imagination of the writer.

I immediately think of Plato and his Dialogues. They tend to be an exploration of ideas or concepts from different perspectives. The questioning process is seen as more important than arriving at a fixed answer. I think The Symposium is a good example, where the reader is engaged along with the participants.
We can be pleasurably puzzled...by Love.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symposium_(Plato)

The reader is encouraged to think on...perhaps own beliefs being challenged.





























RussellA April 03, 2025 at 16:27 #980428
Quoting Amity
However, this June event is wider. It is about philosophy writing.


I agree that there is a difference between philosophy writing and a philosophy essay, but rule 4) does say it must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay.

4) Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay. The Essay's Title and Topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. It should be systematic with an Introduction, Main Body and Conclusion. This is non-fiction. Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.


@Moliere does conclude by saying "Resources were requested for help on what exactly an academic philosophy essay should look like, and provided by @Amity so I've appended them here:

The first link is "How to write a crap philosophy essay"
The second link "Guidelines on writing a Philosophy Paper" notes "don't try to establish any earth shattering conclusions in your 5-6 page paper."
The third link is "An academic guide to planning essays"

All this suggests that this writing challenge is looking for a philosophy essay rather than philosophy writing.
Amity April 03, 2025 at 16:47 #980435
Quoting RussellA
All this suggests that this writing challenge is looking for a philosophy essay rather than philosophy writing.


This is an unfortunate interpretation of the challenge deliberately entitled:
Quoting Moliere
Philosophy Writing Challenge - June 2025.


***

Quoting RussellA
Moliere does conclude by saying "Resources were requested for help on what exactly an academic philosophy essay should look like, and provided by Amity so I've appended them here:


Yes. The OP was edited because some requested help, specifically with writing 'academic philosophy'.
Only one kind of philosophy writing.

***

Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay.


The key word is 'broad'. With 'essay' to be regarded in its widest meaning, as an attempt:

The word essay derives from the French infinitive essayer, "to try" or "to attempt". In English essay first meant "a trial" or "an attempt", and this is still an alternative meaning. The Frenchman Michel de Montaigne (1533–1592) was the first author to describe his work as essays; he used the term to characterize these as "attempts" to put his thoughts into writing.


***

Quoting Moliere
The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal.


I think this is clear enough?

I hope this helps. However, perhaps the OP could be improved to lessen confusion. @Moliere?




RussellA April 04, 2025 at 07:45 #980545
Quoting Amity
However, perhaps the OP could be improved to lessen confusion.


@Moliere

As rule 4 says "must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay", this seems to suggest that what is required is a philosophical essay.

There are many examples of how to write a philosophical essay on the internet, but taking University College Cork as an example.

Note 1: "philosophy paper" is synonymous with "philosophical essay"
Note 2: a philosophical essay is not about flowery language or story-telling technique.
Note 3: start with a proposition to be proved

Writing a Philosophical Essay: A Brief Tutorial

II. What is a philosophy paper?

Philosophical essays prove some point through the use of rational argument. A philosophical essay is not about flowery language, story-telling techniques, or surprising the reader. The beauty of a philosophical essay is found in your ideas; the language that you use is only a tool for conveying these ideas to the reader. The art is in proving one’s point clearly.

The philosophical essay generally follows a very simple structure:

1. State the proposition to be proved.
2. Give the argument for that proposition.
3. Show that the argument is valid.
4. Show that the premises are true.
5. Consider an objection to your argument and respond to that objection.
6. State the upshot of what has been proven. (Martinich, A.P. (1996) Philosophical
Writing. Oxford: Blackwell Publishing. p. 53.)
Amity April 04, 2025 at 12:36 #980579
To clarify, this event is about 'Philosophy Writing'.
So, that is the 'broad category'. Here's something that might clarify, perhaps inspire:

Quoting What Counts as Good Philosophy Writing
...philosophy teachers sometimes present too narrow a picture of what counts as philosophical writing. We teach our students to write short response papers and longer philosophical essays, all through the lens of argument analysis. But philosophical writing can be much richer than argument analysis and essays, much more than a well-structured argument and a thesis statement.

Even a cursory look at the history of philosophy will reveal a wide variety of philosophical forms and approaches to writing philosophy, only some of which fall into the paradigm of philosophical essays that most students are commonly taught to pursue in their own philosophical writing. Think of the philosophers in the history of philosophy, for example, who have written in the following styles and forms:

Essays
Journal articles
Books
Treatises
Diaries / personal journals
Letters
Aphorisms
Poetry
Dialogues
Blog posts

Although students may be exposed to these alternative forms of philosophical writing in the materials they are required to read in a typical Introduction to Philosophy class, very seldom are they encouraged to experiment with these alternative forms in their own writing. When, for example, was the last time, if you are a philosophy teacher, that you required your students to write a philosophical poem or to keep a daily journal? If you are or were a philosophy student, have you been asked to write your own philosophical dialogue or a series of aphorisms to capture the essence of your thoughts on a particular topic or philosophical issue?
[...]
Naturally we want to help train our students to do the type of writing that they will be expected to do throughout the rest of their academic and professional careers, boring as that writing may be. It’s worth noting, however, that the philosophers who made the biggest impact on the history of philosophy were often those philosophers who broke with traditional forms (especially those of their teachers) and developed their own styles of writing.

Think, for example, of the stylistic differences between the following philosophers, each of which I consider to be a linchpin or a turning point in the history of philosophy, or at least a philosopher with a radically unique style:...

[ inserts of photos and names]

What a philosophical and literary tragedy it would have been if each of these philosophers had been constrained to writing only the kind of uninspired, hegemonic philosophy essays we require of our students!

For me, part of the joy of reading the great philosophers is immersing myself in their literary style and gestalt, not merely in their premises and conclusions—seeing the world and all of reality through their own unique eyes, following the free-flowing nature of their thoughts like water running downstream to its inevitable conclusion based not just no differing conclusions but on differing personalities, styles, linguistic quirks, and individual perspectives—all while bucking the trend of philosophical writing.

I want students to immerse themselves not only in philosophical argumentation but in the drama of philosophy and in its many beautiful forms of writing for their own sake, all in the interest of helping students experiment with their own writing and acquire their own voice that they will carry with them and keep developing over the course of their entire lives.g as it had been previously known.


So, the vision is a widening of the scope of philosophy writing, even if philosophical argumentation and logical soundness lie at the core. It's an experiment and, hopefully, an enjoyable experience. Get quirky!
Or, at least, find your wings and "Fly, baby, fly!" :cool: :sparkle: :flower:



RussellA April 04, 2025 at 14:28 #980599
Quoting Amity
To clarify, this event is about 'Philosophy Writing'. So, that is the 'broad category'.


You are saying that rule 4 should have read "must fall under the broad category of philosophy writing"?
Amity April 04, 2025 at 14:39 #980600
Quoting RussellA
You are saying that rule 4 should have read "must fall under the broad category of philosophy writing"?


I am saying that [s]rule[/s] Guideline 4 and other aspects of the OP can be improved upon. I was involved with this and it was done quickly to meet the deadline. I have a suggestion to make.
Perhaps a re-write. Along the lines of:
4) Must fall under the broad category of philosophy writing. The title and topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. Even if philosophical argumentation and logical soundness lie at the core of philosophy, this is a chance to widen the creative scope. See Resources, Learning Centre for helpful information.


Any useful 'philosophy writing' resources that have been offered throughout both this thread and the original can be collected and placed in the Learning Centre, then a link provided.

I think this would make the OP less cluttered. The Edit removed. The Guidelines easier to read.
The Resource thread would also be readily available for any further events.

All thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Moliere April 04, 2025 at 16:43 #980613
Reply to RussellA Reply to Amity Personally I'm fine with either formal or less formal writing. I'm not going to screen essays on that basis, anyways.

Part of writing philosophy is choosing your own norms. In a way to say that philosophy writing must be such and such is to already put a philosophy forward, to have already chosen norms. This is necessary in order to write at all, but it's because of this that I don't want to say anything terribly specific. Some will gravitate towards the formally structured essay and some will not, and both are just fine for the purposes of this exercise.
Amity April 04, 2025 at 17:23 #980623
Reply to Moliere
I think I've said all I ever want to on the subject.
Now, to get on with my heavenly creation. Peace :pray:
Athena April 05, 2025 at 15:21 #980753
Quoting Jack Cummins
Yes, a critique of academic elitism may be worth exploring. I am not sure whether I feel up to it, but you never know and, maybe, someone will.


Jack, you know you are one of my favorite people, but civilization as we know it may collapse. In the US, rule by law has crumbled, and many of its highest order to citizens are quaking in fear. I am sitting here in total horror of universities giving in to Trump instead of uniting and opposing his power over reach. Our reaction to 911 led to fascist overreach and asking libraries to keep information about patrons and make this information available to the like of the CIA. There has been a deep and fundamental change in the US citizenry, and focusing on "love" may lead us in the wrong direction. This is not the time for escapism!

However, academic elitism and the meaning of being self-governing with protected human rights and duties has substance. The new thread of consciousness is excellent for thinking about what we think and why we think it.
RussellA April 05, 2025 at 15:36 #980754
Quoting Athena
Jack, you know you are one of my favorite people, but civilization as we know it may collapse


The good thing about a philosophical essay is that the author needs to defend their thesis using a clear and well structured argument, critically analyse the evidence and show that their premises are true and that their argument is valid.
Jack Cummins April 05, 2025 at 16:04 #980758
Reply to Athena
Hello, I am extremely worried about human civilisation collapsing, with the current world leaders we have. I have been depressed about it since November and December. At first, I was it was affecting my mental health and I dreamt of the end of civilisation a couple of months ago. Then, I got ill physically and have ended up in hospital with a chest infection, on oxygen. I also still feel worried about civilisation collapsing, while lying in hospital.

If I do write an essay for this, I think, it may be hard to formulate this topic into a clear philosophy argument, as I saw by the response by @RussellA. Part of the difficulty is translating experience, the anecdotal and intuition into the formula of philosophy arguments. This may be the biggest challenge of the competition, as opposed to literary writing in creative writing activities.
Vera Mont April 05, 2025 at 19:33 #980797
Quoting Jack Cummins
If I do write an essay for this, I think, it may be hard to formulate this topic into a clear philosophy argument,

Tentative suggestion: start with the Social Contract. That concept is not hard to defend in an essay, but horrifically hard to defend on the actual ground. (I briefly considered making it my subject, but set it free again as I didn't have a context in which to frame it. I think maybe you do.)
RussellA April 06, 2025 at 07:59 #980920
Quoting Jack Cummins
Part of the difficulty is translating experience, the anecdotal and intuition into the formula of philosophy arguments.


Introduction, Body, Conclusion.

Perhaps a Body of four sections.

In support:
Section one of 400 words - Ghandi. "There is no path to peace; peace is the path."
Section two of 400 words - Erasmus of Rotterdam. Perhaps the foremost humanist writer of the Renaissance, and arguably also one of the foremost philosophers of peace.
Section three of 400 words - Bertrand Russell. Established the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. Launched in 1963, the Foundation was established to carry forward Russell's work for peace, human rights and social justice.

Counterargument:
Section four of 400 words - Nietzsche. Controversially valorizes struggle and war as necessary ingredients of human flourishing.

Section one as typical:
20 words as introduction
180 words just describing Ghandi's approach to peace. See https://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/fighting-for-peace-the-Gandhian-way.php
180 words giving your personal reasons why Ghandi was right. Here you include your own experiences and thoughts.
20 words as summary

This would make up an academic philosophical essay
Athena April 06, 2025 at 14:38 #980969
Quoting RussellA
The good thing about a philosophical essay is that the author needs to defend their thesis using a clear and well structured argument, critically analyse the evidence and show that their premises are true and that their argument is valid.


:lol: I don't think that is a discussion for this thread. I just wanted to explain that my mind has been highjacked by current events. I have some difficult choices. What I want to talk about is best in a political forum, but the folks in that forum are emotional reactors, not intellectual thinkers. That puts me in this forum, and the issue of elitism was brought up. That is a hot cultural/political issue right now but it isn't exactly philosophical. I am just not in the mood for talking about love.

I have a problem with philosophy. It is a great source for some important thinking about life and everything else, but it can be way out there in la-la land and not of practical or useful. Philosophical elitism is more like a dog show where unimportant things really matter, instead of judging the value of a working dog. Thinking of the best way to talk about love and meet the standards of a good argument is like caring if a dog exactly matches the features of its breed when the building is burning down. I may be wrong, but I think we could use philosophy for more important things than being in the best form.
Athena April 06, 2025 at 15:18 #980980
Quoting Jack Cummins
Hello, I am extremely worried about human civilisation collapsing, with the current world leaders we have. I have been depressed about it since November and December. At first, I was it was affecting my mental health and I dreamt of the end of civilisation a couple of months ago. Then, I got ill physically and have ended up in hospital with a chest infection, on oxygen. I also still feel worried about civilisation collapsing, while lying in hospital.

If I do write an essay for this, I think, it may be hard to formulate this topic into a clear philosophy argument, as I saw by the response by RussellA. Part of the difficulty is translating experience, the anecdotal and intuition into the formula of philosophy arguments. This may be the biggest challenge of the competition, as opposed to literary writing in creative writing activities.


To me, you are totally awesome because you trigger so many thoughts in my head. Your thinking and my thinking go together like a left and right hand.

If philosophy is good for anything, it is good for dealing with life. You are not the only one dangerous effect by what is happening in the world today. Trust me, I have been awake in the middle of the night because of some darn thing I saw in the news. Those of us who are so affected by what is going on are doing good because at least we not committing senseless murders or mass murders. I can so empathize with the desperation of those people who need to effectively turn things around, so they behave rashly instead of rationally. I am keeping my fingers crossed that my cold is not turning into pneumonia, but seriously, we can not be the only ones affected by the stress of the day

So, what can philosophy do for us now? There have been really bad times in history, and surely some people here can bring that past into the present with the wisdom of philosophers. Socrates gave his life to defend freedom of speech and democracy as he understood it. Back in the day, there was serious conflict about teaching rhetoric versus the higher thinking of philosophy. Asian philosophers have given us much to think about in developing ourselves into better human beings. I think we can make a difference if we work together and build a shared understanding of how philosophy can get people through hard times.
Benkei April 06, 2025 at 17:06 #980996
Reply to Moliere Are footnotes mandatory?
Benkei April 06, 2025 at 17:09 #980998
Reply to Vera Mont I get to finally spout vitriol about dumb philosophers without causing a flame war... I'm totally game. My first draft is on 5800 words though. Now I have to cut text... which I hate doing.
Moliere April 06, 2025 at 17:45 #981002
Jack Cummins April 06, 2025 at 19:27 #981021
Reply to Athena
I hope that you do not get pneumonia. What governments don't seem to be paying attention to is the way that social conditions affect mental and physical health. In England, there is a drive to get people back to work but without attention to why they are getting sick. But, I won't say too much in this specific thread other than to say that the role of the philosopher may be to look in a more analytical way, drawing together ideas from various disciplines, with clear arguments.

It's probably not a topic that I would pursue for this particular activity in though, as I think that it watching too much news which contributed to me getting unwell recently. Not that I wish to side-step politics. I nearly started a thread on it while in hospital but decided it would probably make me deteriorate if I did it at this moment. All in good time and right place. If anything, I see the question of so much trouble as raising the issue of collapse or potential transformation. But I am sure that I have said this many times in various threads. Of course, it is an area which you, or someone else could tackle for this activity in a unique way.
Vera Mont April 06, 2025 at 19:44 #981024
Quoting Athena
I don't think that is a discussion for this thread.

Are you sure? The subject of this thread is the writing of philosophical essay.
Maybe you can write one on what the problem with philosophy is.
Athena April 07, 2025 at 00:02 #981063
Quoting Jack Cummins
I hope that you do not get pneumonia. What governments don't seem to be paying attention to is the way that social conditions affect mental and physical health. In England, there is a drive to get people back to work but without attention to why they are getting sick. But, I won't say too much in this specific thread other than to say that the role of the philosopher may be to look in a more analytical way, drawing together ideas from various disciplines, with clear arguments.

It's probably not a topic that I would pursue for this particular activity in though, as I think that it watching too much news which contributed to me getting unwell recently. Not that I wish to side-step politics. I nearly started a thread on it while in hospital but decided it would probably make me deteriorate if I did it at this moment. All in good time and right place. If anything, I see the question of so much trouble as raising the issue of collapse or potential transformation. But I am sure that I have said this many times in various threads. Of course, it is an area which you, or someone else could tackle for this activity in a unique way.


I like how you understand what I am saying. But that said, I am reading "How to Think" by Alan Jacobs, and I need to warn against the notion that we are independent thinkers and that a few of us are far better thinkers than most. Our thinking is a social thing. It is all of us together that assures the best decision making or really off-the-wall extreme left or extreme right thinking that we indulge in to be part of the right group. Even if that other may have a very low IQ, this person may have a perspective and an awareness that is important to the group decision. Some may notice I am most passionate about Hitler and fascism because such matters were discussed at the dinner table. I didn't learn just facts but how we should feel about those facts and to think about the values and the dangers.

My childhood is the foundation upon which I build with books, documentaries, and hopefully, forum discussions. Well, I am weird- I feel connected with all of humanity since the beginning of humanity and at the same time realize how much I do not know. So how can philosophy help us manage our prejudices since we were children, and history, and present day events? How do we prevent stress from becoming a mental or physical problem? What can we do to help each other?

Can we change "more analytical way" to more organic way? What we are missing is the humanness and the connectedness. Education for technology has helped with some things, but how human is being analytical? AI can analyze but it is not human, it is not organic and we have lost our way as though happiness requires something outside of ourselves rather than our experience of ourselves. We need to change the conversation as you did by mentioning the health problems that are made worse by a materialistic understanding instead of a humanistic understanding. Quoting Jack Cummins
Of course, it is an area which you, or someone else could tackle for this activity in a unique way.

Help me here, I am fixated on being a citizen as a human experience and as it was warned when entered WWI, speaking of the German model of bureaucracy it crushes individual liberty and power.
Does the notion of shifting from materialism to humanism stir any new notions?

How about this quote: "If your path determines you walk through hell, walk as though you own the place."
Athena April 07, 2025 at 00:30 #981067
Quoting Vera Mont
Are you sure? The subject of this thread is the writing of philosophical essay.
Maybe you can write one on what the problem with philosophy is.


Thank you, but I can not write anything without others being involved. It may not seem like it, but I rely on what you all think. If I only cared about what I think, there would be no point in coming here. I am not sure but a philosophical contrast of materialism versus humanism or technology verses humanism may have some philosophical benefit. But I would not have thought of that without @Jack's thoughts.

:lol: Many years ago I read Edward Hall's book Beyond Culture. He totally shattered my confidence that I knew enough to think for myself. It took a few weeks to restructure a new understanding of reality. I am going through another period of being sure I do not know enough to pretend that I do know. Alan Jacob's book "How to Think" has made me very humble and unsure of myself and also excited about what can be if we come together and walk through hell as though we own the place. Everyone knows we have to stop being victims. We just haven't shared thoughts about this. I think most of us are running around like victims in an earthquake or hurricane. If we have a sense of power, it is the power of belonging to the crowd, right wing or left wing. But if we think about this, we might be aware of feelings of powerlessness. People in a democracy must feel united, powerful and effective. If they do not, they are not experiencing democracy. Being dependent on a strong man is not having a democratic experience.
Athena April 07, 2025 at 00:47 #981068
I have been reading the posts here, and I am not sure what qualifies as a good argument. I am a complete amateur, but perhaps I could settle on my ideas of why democracy is important. :chin: I think I need to increase my awareness of humanism versus materialism. How long do we have to submit a paper?

AI says: Humanists stand for the building of a more humane, just, compassionate, and democratic society using a pragmatic ethics based on human reason, experience, and reliable knowledge-an ethics that judges the consequences of human actions by the well-being of all life on Earth.

This is a whole different approach than education for technology minus the humanities and leaving moral training to the church as Germany did for military and industrial reasons. @Jack what you said is very much on my mind.

I want to note for myself, the democratic model for industry, along with education for democracy could resolve our most serious problems.
Moliere April 07, 2025 at 12:13 #981118
Quoting Athena
How long do we have to submit a paper?


May 31st, 23:59 GMT.
I like sushi April 09, 2025 at 10:05 #981382
It says June in title. Were there submissions for previous competition I could read OR has this just been delayed?
Moliere April 09, 2025 at 20:42 #981513
Reply to I like sushi I'm posting the submissions on June 1st of 2025, and the deadline for submissions is the day prior to June 1st.
Moliere May 01, 2025 at 21:43 #985488
Happy May Day, everyone.

I think some essays have been removed from my PM -- but at present I have @Sam26 and @Bob Ross 's submissions.

I wanted to remind people that the end of this month is the last day for submissions, and also note how I believe I've lost some submissions in my PM's -- so if you're not either Sam or Bob, please resubmit and I'll make sure to preserve the essay outside of the PM.

Addendum: I think I've heard people say they have interest in submitting, and have mistaken that with submissions. I look forward to more submissions!
Amity May 02, 2025 at 07:54 #985571
Reply to Moliere
Thanks for the Happy wishes and the reminder:
Quoting Moliere
8)Deadline for submissions is May 31st 23:59 GMT
9) All entries will be posted on June 1st.


Quoting Moliere
I think some essays have been removed from my PM


Your honesty is admirable in sharing the difficulties encountered in hosting a new TPF challenge.

I hope the problem of 'lost submissions' can be addressed quickly.

@Baden and other previous hosts of TPF Activities/Challenges might share their experience and knowledge of this part of the process. Support always welcome. Perhaps best via PM?

Great to know that people have already submitted. Unfortunate that some anonymity has been lost.
I think it would be best for anyone concerned to contact @Moliere via PM.

Best wishes.














Jack Cummins May 03, 2025 at 07:38 #985694
Reply to Amity Reply to Moliere
It does seem sad that essays have been lost and that the completel anonymity has been compromised in the approach. I wonder how essays have been removed, because there is so much going on with data attacks etc.

I am hoping to submit still but fearful of the essay getting lost because I have to type it onto the pms directly, due to software problems. Actually, what I am writing is far from finished as I have been struggling with a lot of stress since coming out of hospital. I am hoping that what I am writing will come together sufficiently for me to submit. It is over 500 words but I don't wish it to be too long and get lost. I will give myself time until the closing date. If it gets lost on the system I will use my handwritten draft as a potential thread instead.

Let's hope that people who have submitted the missing essays are not too demoralised and have their work saved somewhere. It would be awful if this situation affects the competition. I hope that the problem doesn't come down to issues of submitting private emails because there is so much going on in the world with security concerns about the internet at the moment.
Moliere May 03, 2025 at 12:39 #985731
Reply to Jack Cummins To be honest I think I made a mistake and jumped the gun -- I mixed up those who had already submitted with those who I had heard were going to submit. It made me anxious so I thought it best to say something "just in case"
Amity May 03, 2025 at 13:23 #985738
Quoting Jack Cummins
I am hoping to submit still but fearful of the essay getting lost because I have to type it onto the pms directly, due to software problems. Actually, what I am writing is far from finished as I have been struggling with a lot of stress since coming out of hospital. I am hoping that what I am writing will come together sufficiently for me to submit. It is over 500 words but I don't wish it to be too long and get lost. I will give myself time until the closing date. If it gets lost on the system I will use my handwritten draft as a potential thread instead.


I hope your essay writing goes well and you don't become too anxious about it.
It's not worth worrying over or becoming fearful of it getting lost. This was just a hiccup.
It should work just the same as the short story activity.
If you keep a copy, then all will be well.
If all goes tits up, all will be well.

Take care! :pray: :flower:

PS I too am a bit stressed, but needs must put things into perspective. And breathe...
Pick a fave from your music list...and chill...dance and let it be... :sparkle:






Jack Cummins May 03, 2025 at 13:33 #985740
Reply to Amity
Stress gets in the way of writing sometimes, but I will try to chill out and hope that you do too. Music helps so much. What I am listening to at the moment is 'Songs of Surrender' by U2, which is a compilation of reworking of many of their songs.
Amity May 03, 2025 at 13:45 #985742
Quoting Jack Cummins
What I am listening to at the moment is 'Songs of Surrender' by U2, which is a compilation of reworking of many of their songs.


Thanks for sharing that. I didn't know of it. You are right. Music does help. Topic for an essay? :wink:
Here's - One (Songs of Surrender)



Jack Cummins May 03, 2025 at 14:02 #985744
Reply to Amity Yes, 'One' would be great inspiration for a song as it is so philosophical. If my current essay doesn't out I may try it or another U2 song. Or, someone else may try one based on music by U2.

On a sadder note , one of my favourite singers, Mike Peters of the Alarm died this week. He was 66 and had chronic leukaemia for 30 years and it took on an aggressive form last year. A lot of people have not come across The Alarm, who were from Wales. They go back to the 80s era and were still performing but with a lot of different members and Mike. I have found The Alarm's music to be a big source of inspiration, comparable with early U2.
Athena May 05, 2025 at 12:46 #986113
Quoting Amity
Thanks for sharing that. I didn't know of it. You are right. Music does help. Topic for an essay?


Oh yeah, that is a good topic, along with the book's "How to Think" explanation of how our emotions affect our judgment and how our experiences affect our emotions. The right and left have different emotions, which lead to different judgments. Hum, the different paths we travel, and how do we come together as a united nation and United Nations? Can we come to a consensus on a future we want to share?
Baden May 28, 2025 at 09:40 #990651
Deadline fast approaching if anyone needs a reminder...
Amity May 28, 2025 at 10:06 #990658
Reply to Baden :smile:

Looking forward to June 1st...

Good luck to everyone! :cool: :flower:
hypericin May 28, 2025 at 18:31 #990825
I will submit something. I suggest we post them to the main forum, maybe with a prefix like [PF Essay]. They are topical, after all!
Moliere May 29, 2025 at 13:27 #990944
Quoting hypericin
I will submit something. I suggest we post them to the main forum, maybe with a prefix like [PF Essay]. They are topical, after all!


The plan as I understand it is to post them in the Phil. Writing Activity 2025 subforum, whose contents appear on the front page. I'm good with adding a PF Essay tag in addition to the title of the paper so that it's easily discernable without clicking on the sub-forum, though clicking on the sub-forum ought to filter out for the essays alone if that's what someone wants to focus on.
Baden May 29, 2025 at 14:21 #990954
Reply to hypericin Quoting Moliere
I'm good with adding a PF Essay tag in addition to the title of the paper so that it's easily discernable without clicking on the sub-forum, though clicking on the sub-forum ought to filter out for the essays alone if that's what someone wants to focus on.


Not sure we need the tag. It sounds a bit cumbersome to me.
Amity May 29, 2025 at 15:14 #990961
Quoting Baden
It sounds a bit cumbersome to me.


I agree. There is no need. Keep it simple. The plan is good to go! :up: :cool:
Moliere May 29, 2025 at 17:31 #990977
Reply to Baden Reply to Amity :up: Sounds good. You got outvoted @hypericin :D
hypericin May 29, 2025 at 18:04 #990982
Reply to Moliere Ah, my real concern was that the essays were going to be hidden from the main forum. I see that is not the case.
hypericin May 31, 2025 at 18:48 #991302
I might be a few hours late. I assume nobody minds, since this is not a contest. I'll definitely be done by midnight my time (UTC -7)
Benkei June 01, 2025 at 16:53 #991442
It's June 1st. Where are the submissions of posters with too much time on their hands?
Moliere June 01, 2025 at 17:10 #991446
Reply to Benkei Working on it, about to post.
hypericin June 01, 2025 at 17:17 #991447
Reply to Benkei I feel attacked!
Benkei June 01, 2025 at 17:40 #991450
Reply to hypericin Nah. You were late so obviously don't have enough time. Philosophy is too hard for me so I didn't join this time.
Amity June 01, 2025 at 19:55 #991464
Quoting hypericin
maybe with a prefix like [PF Essay].


Quoting Moliere
I'm good with adding a PF Essay tag in addition to the title of the paper so that it's easily discernable without clicking on the sub-forum


Quoting Amity
There is no need.


Given a response to one of the essays, I've changed my mind. I didn't appreciate how they would be read and responded to by others. { I'm not sure I even like individual essays being strung out like that}

See : https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/991451

But, hey, I'm tired and a bit overwhelmed at 13 PF posters taking time and energy to respond so brilliantly to the Challenge! I did not expect that when all this started.
Thanks to everyone concerned. :fire: :love:




T Clark June 01, 2025 at 20:48 #991469
Reply to Moliere
If I remember correctly, there is a way for us to turn off these essays so that we don’t see them on our front page. Can you remind me how that works please.
Jack Cummins June 01, 2025 at 20:56 #991471
Reply to Amity
I am a bit overwhelmed by the essays but I am impressed by the overall quality. Your idea of the activity has certainly sparked some creative responses.

We are going to need a fair and of time to read, process and give feedback. Initially, I thought that having them on the the front page was good, but it is possible that some may get lost by being jumbled amongst a fast turnover of ongoing threads. Also, from the one which has received a reply, it is questionable whether it will be clear that they are part of an essay activity rather than new outposts by @Moliere.

Of course, people can find them by looking in the category of philosophy essays. It is hard to know whether having them in the main page will hinder or help gain readership. But I don't plan to go on about this too much, especially as it is an experimental activity. Also, based on the entry above mine, I am hoping that many regular users do not see the outposts as a mere intrusive nuisance! As it is, I just wish to focus on the essays and appreciate them for what they are.
T Clark June 02, 2025 at 03:46 #991524
Quoting T Clark
If I remember correctly, there is a way for us to turn off these essays so that we don’t see them on our front page. Can you remind me how that works please.


@Moliere

Do you have a response for me on this? It’s not that I don’t think the essay submittals have value, it’s just that they really overwhelm everything else on the front page. If it’s not something that can be dealt with just say so please.
Jamal June 02, 2025 at 03:51 #991525
Reply to T Clark

Go to the category, "Phil. writing challenge - June 2025", scroll to the bottom, click on the eye. I urge you not to do it though, because I think those essays will produce some of the best discussions we've had for a long time, and you'll miss them all.
T Clark June 02, 2025 at 04:00 #991528
Reply to Jamal
It’s not that I don’t want to read them. I’ve already read a few. It’s just that it makes it hard to keep track of what’s on the front page.
Jamal June 02, 2025 at 04:11 #991533
Reply to T Clark

There will be discussions in those threads, and you won't be able to see them.

They cover a wide range of philosophical areas so you could just pretend lots of high quality OPs suddenly appeared at the same time. The idea that they might overwhelm the front page only applies if they're on the same topic (or if they're not philosophy, like the fiction competitions).
T Clark June 02, 2025 at 05:05 #991541
Reply to Jamal
OK, you’ve talked me into it.
Jamal June 02, 2025 at 05:09 #991544
Amity June 02, 2025 at 05:33 #991547
Quoting Moliere
I'm good with adding a PF Essay tag in addition to the title of the paper so that it's easily discernable without clicking on the sub-forum


Thanks, Moliere, for adding the PF Essay tag to all the essays. It helps.

Quoting Jack Cummins
As it is, I just wish to focus on the essays and appreciate them for what they are.


:smile: That is the spirit and a great attitude to bring to this new event. Experience in the Literary Activity has shown just how distracting other issues can become. Some, of course, need to be swiftly addressed as valid concerns. We can then progress and enjoy the juicy bits: reading, reflecting and responding. With respect, a sense of fun and perspective.

Quoting Jamal
I think those essays will produce some of the best discussions we've had for a long time,


:up: Encouraging words. I agree and look forward to getting stuck in. Probably not as full on as in the Literary Event. We will see...

Quoting Jamal
They cover a wide range of philosophical areas so you could just pretend lots of high quality OPs suddenly appeared at the same time. The idea that they might overwhelm the front page only applies if they're on the same topic (or if they're not philosophy, like the fiction competitions).


Yes. I like that way of looking at the essay 'dump'. It is a bit of an overwhelm. Not really what I was expecting, I appreciate that it might prove problematic to some.
Any essay is open to the challenge for not being 'philosophy'. In that case, readers can post their feedback in the individual essay thread. The author can reply later.

An opportunity to remind readers of the OP:

Moliere:A separate discussion thread will be posted 'Meet the Authors'. A list of authors will be provided for the 'guessing game'.

After the authors are revealed on June 16th the authors can:
1. Respond to the comments and feedback.
2. Join in the general discussion, compare and contrast other essays. Note: authors, as readers, can comment on specific essays before this

From the Guidance:
10) Members please carefully read the essays before offering thoughtful feedback. A more open-ended conversation will take place in the 'Meet the Authors' thread that will be created on June 15th.



Now to settle down and read some. Later...

Amity June 02, 2025 at 05:39 #991548
Amity June 02, 2025 at 10:32 #991581
To read offline, I've downloaded the essays to Word. Thought I'd share, in no particular order:

List of 13 essays with approx. word count (excl. references and biography)

Technoethics: Freedom, Precarity, and Enzymatic Knowledge Machines (3,400)

The Frame Before the Question (850)

What Does It Mean to Be Human? (1,240)

Wittgenstein's Hinges and Gödel's Unprovable Statements (2,365)

Bubbles and Styx In: Pondering the Past (2,055)

The Insides and Outsides of 'Reality': Exploring Possibilities (715)

Dante and the Deflation of Reason (5,220)

Cognitive Experiences are a Part of Material Reality (1,640)

The Authoritarian Liberty Paradox (5045)

Part 1 & Part 2 (5,810)

The importance of the Philosophical Essay within philosophy (2,490)

An Exploration Between the Balance Between State and Individual Interests (2,595)

My Soul is like the Dead Sea (730)

(Note to authors: If I've got any terribly wrong, Ooops! please PM @Moliere)
Moliere June 02, 2025 at 11:28 #991585
Reply to T Clark I wasn't sure, so thanks @Jamal.
Moliere June 02, 2025 at 11:30 #991587
My plan is to create the general discussion and "Whose who?" thread on the 15th of June, and since I've orchestrated the thing and know whose who I'm reserving my comments for after June, but will still follow through with my promise to give every submission a proper response.
Amity June 02, 2025 at 11:42 #991589
Quoting Moliere
I'm reserving my comments for after June, but will still follow through with my promise to give every submission a proper response.


Everyone will know who is who and what they wrote after the guessing game on the 15th and the reveal on the 16th June, no?

So, you can start commenting then. Puzzled :chin:
Moliere June 02, 2025 at 11:45 #991590
Reply to Amity Oh, to give me time, and just because it feels right.
Amity June 02, 2025 at 11:49 #991592
Quoting Moliere
to give me time, and just because it feels right.


Blethering bleuter :roll:
Moliere June 02, 2025 at 11:54 #991593
Reply to Amity With pride ;)
Moliere June 02, 2025 at 12:10 #991601
Reply to Amity But, really, if you think about it I don't even know if I'll finish in the month -- I'm committed to responding to all 13 with the same amount of care, on their own terms, and I have the reading group that I intend on keeping up with -- so, in terms of time I think I can commit it's also just an honest appraisal of how long it'll take to write 13 in-depth responses to everyone on their own terms.
Amity June 02, 2025 at 13:24 #991623
Quoting Moliere
I don't even know if I'll finish in the month


That's OK. The essays aren't going anywhere, are they? Take as much time as you need to fulfil your stated commitment to provide in-depth responses to authors. Most admirable.

I am simply pointing out that you don't have to 'reserve comments until after June' when the party will be all but over. People moving on...
After the 16th June, your comments can be a light 'starter' before the main meal. Get the juices flowing.
I'm sure everyone will appreciate you sitting down at the table. Relaxing in good cheer :party:
And, quite frankly, I don't know how you will be able to resist! :love: :kiss:

But enough about you. There are stories to read...and they're damned good! As you know...
hypericin June 03, 2025 at 16:33 #991838
@Moliere Could you make the essays public? I have an IRL philosophy group that I attend on Friday evenings, and the topic this week is actually the topic of my entry. I'd like to share it with them. Thanks!
Jamal June 03, 2025 at 16:37 #991839
Moliere June 03, 2025 at 16:46 #991843
Reply to Jamal Ahhh, all explained. Thanks @Jamal!
Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:18 #991853
Reply to hypericin Reply to Jamal Reply to Moliere

Sorry but I don't understand what just happened. The whole event vanished as I was posting a reply.

How have the essays been made public?
Why was it necessary?
Why couldn't hypericin simply take his essay along to his group?
Why no warning or explanation given?

Jamal June 03, 2025 at 17:19 #991854
Quoting Amity
The whole event vanished as I was posting a reply.


Can you see the essays now?
Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:20 #991856
Reply to Jamal Yes. But I want to know why they went AWOL.
Jamal June 03, 2025 at 17:23 #991858
As requested by @hypericin, I made the essays viewable to guests and search engines, just like most other posts and discussions. If any participants want to keep their essays off the internet, I can once again restrict them to members-only, which is the default for the Symposium.
Jamal June 03, 2025 at 17:25 #991859
Quoting Amity
Yes. But I want to know why they went AWOL.


When I made them public I made them viewable by guests but forgot I had to explicitly make them viewable by members too.
Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:30 #991860
Quoting Jamal
If any participants want to keep their essays off the internet, I can once again restrict them to members-only, which is the default for the Symposium.


I am amazed that you did this. I thought that it was your idea to make it members-only so that you had to sign in to read them. Thus, keeping them 'private' so that you could still publish them elsewhere.

So, if you have changed your mind about that, then why not make them available as all the other posts and discussions?

It would have been good to have been given due warning and explanation before you took the action.

Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:31 #991861
A question you missed:
Quoting Amity
Why couldn't hypericin simply take his essay along to his group?


Or share them via email, whatever?
All of this for one poster on one occasion?
Jamal June 03, 2025 at 17:34 #991862
@hypericin @Moliere I'm removing the custom permissions for the essay category, which will put things back to how they were before I made the mistake of getting involved. They are now unavailable to anyone who isn't signed in.

Please discuss the issue amongst yourselves and come to a democratic decision, then let me know.
Moliere June 03, 2025 at 17:40 #991863
Reply to Jamal Okiedokie.

@Amity -- what's wrong with making them publicly available?
Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:41 #991864
Quoting Jamal
If any participants want to keep their essays off the internet, I can once again restrict them to members-only, which is the default for the Symposium.


Quoting Jamal
Please discuss the issue amongst yourselves and come to a democratic decision, then let me know.


Authors are supposed to be kept anonymous until 16th June. Nobody is likely to discuss it here.


Amity June 03, 2025 at 17:43 #991865
Quoting Moliere
what's wrong with making them publicly available?


I am not inclined to pursue a debate, right now. I've better things to do.
hypericin June 03, 2025 at 17:47 #991866
@Amity The discussion group is all back-and-forth, no time for reading. I was wanting to give interested people a chance to read before we began the discussion. It is too long for me to post on the group page. The history of @Jamal making this private was so he could try publish one of his own stories. I don't think anyone minds at this point if this content is available to non-members of TPF. If someone truly wants to publish in the future and its availablility is actually an obstacle (I think less common for academic papers than fiction?), I guess we can make it private again.

Quoting Amity
Authors are supposed to be kept anonymous until 16th June.


Nothing to do with author anonymity. The only difference is that non-members of TPF can view the essays as we can.
Jamal June 03, 2025 at 18:18 #991872
@hypericin Ok, if in 12 hours nobody has given a reason why the essays shouldn't be made public, I'll make them public. How's that?
Baden June 03, 2025 at 18:20 #991873
Reply to Moliere Reply to Amity Reply to Jamal
I had forgotten about the private/public thing and @Jamal was just trying to be helpful. However, I vote along with @Amity to keep them private at least until authors are revealed and decide publically to change that if that was the original expectation. Seems fairer.
Baden June 03, 2025 at 18:22 #991875
(It might be that some or other author entered on that basis or that it is particularly important to them, I mean).
hypericin June 03, 2025 at 18:23 #991876
Reply to Baden what is unfair about making the essays public? That is just the basic expectation of posting in a forum. I think few if any of the posters were even aware of the public private thing. I knew just because we ran into the same issue during one of the writing contests, and I had long forgotten it.

I would say, unless one of the entrants actually wants their entry private (for some reason I can't even fathom now) let's make them public as @Jamal suggests
Baden June 03, 2025 at 18:26 #991877
Quoting hypericin
what is unfair about making the essays public?


Nothing---unless an author submitted on a reasonable understanding they were going to be private. We just don't know if that's the case, right? I think that's @Amity's point. However, that's just my take and I am just one vote. From a purely personal point of view, I don't mind either way.
hypericin June 03, 2025 at 18:31 #991878
Quoting Baden
We just don't know if that's the case, right?

Since @Moliere did not make this explicit in the rules of entry there is no reason to suspect anyone would have this expectation. The private thing for the symposium is far from common knowledge.
Baden June 03, 2025 at 18:32 #991879
Reply to hypericin

You may be right and my reasoning might be too cautious. It wouldn't be the first time..
Amity June 03, 2025 at 18:53 #991883
This is becoming ridiculous. I vote with my feet. I am out of here.
Moliere June 03, 2025 at 19:01 #991884
Reply to hypericin Reply to Baden Reply to Baden Reply to Amity Reply to Amity

Something to ward: The privacy in question isn't who wrote what, but rather whether a search engine can find the essay through searching our website.

So the authors will still not be revealed until the 16th.

But if there's no reason to hide them and @hypericin needs access then I vote to make them visible to search engines (while still keeping the authors unknown)
Benkei June 03, 2025 at 21:09 #991908
Reply to Baden There are people who post on an internet forum with the understanding it is "private"? :lol:

AmadeusD June 04, 2025 at 01:55 #991992
Missed the cut off, but i've got 2800/3000 words down.

Is there another one for later in the year?
Jamal June 04, 2025 at 08:01 #992036
@Moliere @hypericin @Baden

I have made the essays public, as promised.

Although @Baden and @Amity were against it, they did not give any reasons beyond speculation that some participants might be relying on the fact that the category is members-only. But I don't think this is a realistic possibility, and nobody with such a concern has spoken up. Against that, @hypericin has a real need to share the essay with some non-members, and it is pointlessly cruel to disallow this on the basis of basically no good reason at all.

The short stories were once public too, and nobody complained. I made them private because I, and I think @hypericin, were trying to get our stories published in magazines.

As far as I know, nobody has voiced a desire that this unusual permissions scheme be extended to the philosophy essays. It just happened to be the default because I applied the members-only permission to the whole Symposium.
RussellA June 04, 2025 at 08:57 #992044
Quoting Jamal
I have made the essays public, as promised.


:100: After all, we are not a secret society.
Amity June 04, 2025 at 09:34 #992047
I note that there is no longer a need to sign in to read the essays. A good move. To make them easily accessible and highlight the June event.

Quoting Jamal
The short stories were once public too, and nobody complained. I made them private because I, and I think hypericin, were trying to get our stories published in magazines.


I complained of the change to 'private' and the need to sign in to read them. I remember well your reasons and wonder if /why this is no longer a concern.

***
As for:
Quoting hypericin
Authors are supposed to be kept anonymous until 16th June.
— Amity
Nothing to do with author anonymity. The only difference is that non-members of TPF can view the essays


My quote is taken out of context. It was in reply to Jamal:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/991864

***
Finally:
Quoting Jamal
Although Baden and @Amity were against it, they did not give any reasons beyond speculation that some participants might be relying on the fact that the category is members-only. But I don't think this is a realistic possibility, and nobody with such a concern has spoken up.


Mostly, I was surprised at the initial action taken without warning or explanation. I've already mentioned that in relation to your long-standing decision/position to make them private.

Nobody is suggesting that we should be a 'secret society'. Indeed, I am in favour of increased access to the forum.

I simply don't appreciate sudden decisions to change without prior consideration to other participants.
The initial lack of communication is why questions needed to be asked.

Now answered. Perhaps the event can move on.













Jamal June 04, 2025 at 09:39 #992048
Quoting Amity
the event can move on


:up:
Baden June 04, 2025 at 12:03 #992072
Reply to Jamal

Glad it's sorted now. :up:
hypericin June 04, 2025 at 20:38 #992174
Reply to Jamal :up:

Quoting Amity
My quote is taken out of context. It was in reply to Jamal:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/991864


Ah, I didn't notice we were supposed to be doing full anonymity with this one.
Moliere June 04, 2025 at 20:46 #992175
Reply to AmadeusD Well, the anonymity won't be preserved if we add another essay, but I don't mind throwing another one that's done into the mix -- the next one won't happen until next year.

But I don't want to upset anyone either. So I'd welcome it, but can see a need for a cutoff as well.

Leontiskos June 05, 2025 at 00:32 #992228
Reply to Moliere - I would suggest allowing his entry but exempting him from consideration for the $10,000 grand prize. :grin:
And then delete these three posts to make the submission semi-anonymous.
Leontiskos June 05, 2025 at 00:57 #992231
Reply to Amity Reply to Amity

These are actually fair points. Note though that they can be made private again after @hypericin finishes his meeting. If someone submitted under the expectation that they would be private and therefore publishable, that strikes me as a better reason than anything to the contrary.
Amity June 05, 2025 at 07:29 #992277
Quoting Leontiskos
If someone submitted under the expectation that they would be private and therefore publishable, that strikes me as a better reason than anything to the contrary.


I have moved on to reading and commenting on the essays. More than a few are exceptional. Excellent and publishable. One could even be the start of a series. The illustrated adventures of...

So, yes, the issue of publication still bothers me. Not for me personally!
But I received no response from @Jamal to this:
Quoting Amity
I complained of the change to 'private' and the need to sign in to read them. I remember well your reasons and wonder if /why this is no longer a concern.


What has changed regarding keeping essays or stories private for the sake of publication?
Jamal June 05, 2025 at 07:48 #992279
Quoting Amity
What has changed regarding keeping essays or stories private for the sake of publication?


Nothing has changed, except that @hypericin wanted to share essays with non-members.

I made the symposium viewable only by members because I wanted to submit stories to magazines, and because @hypericin had (I think) expressed a wish to do so too. That doesn't apply to the philosophy essays—nobody has expressed a desire for them to be members-only—and on the other hand, someone wants to be able to share them.
Amity June 05, 2025 at 07:52 #992280
Reply to Jamal
Yeah, I got that already, thanks. I meant from a publisher's point of view and any rules that would prohibit an essay if it was already published on TPF.
Jamal June 05, 2025 at 08:04 #992281
Reply to Amity

I don't know if the potential publishers of philosophical essays apply the same exclusivity criteria as many of the fiction magazines do. From my very cursory research, they seem to be more permissive, meaning that if someone wanted to get their essay published, for example on Aeon, it might still be possible.

If anyone is thinking of doing that they should speak up and I'll do what needs to be done. As it is, most if not all participants would have assumed the essays were going to be viewable to non-members, since that is always the default on TPF and discussion forums generally.
Jack Cummins June 05, 2025 at 08:14 #992284
Reply to Jamal Reply to Amity and others:
Personally, I am not concerned one way or another about whether the essays are public or not. There is just one aspect which I wish to draw people's attention to, I get emails about Feedspot, which links to a number of sites about threads on various sites, including TPF and Reddit. I found emails from Feedspot creating links to at least a couple of the TPF essays.

I am not a member of Feedspot and don't know what it involves exactly and how it links to various media sites. However, I am wondering about people who may have submitted to this writing activity, or even created threads, having their writing made accessible publically in such a way. If anything, I am concerned that it may give rise to plagiarism of TPF poster's ideas far more easily than previously.

As for the essays, I am wondering about the decision to make the writing public on the mere basis of one member having difficulty signing in currently. But; as I say it is not my personal concern, but the essays being made public on Feedspot is an issue which needs to be taken into consideration.
Jamal June 05, 2025 at 08:23 #992285
Quoting Jack Cummins
Feedspot


Feedspot is a blog reader and content aggregator and is thus nothing new and nothing to worry about in particular.

TPF is a website, by default all posts on TPF are available to non-members and search engines, so people are free to copy TPF content as they are with any other site.

We could make the site entirely private, so all the content would eventually disappear from search engines and things like Feedspot, thus reducing the risk of content theft and plagiarism. I doubt the members here would want to do that, since they joined on the understanding that TPF is a public website.

And if we did make TPF private we wouldn't attract any new members, because we would lose our high ranking in search engines.

So I don't think Feedspot or similar aggregators and feed readers are relevant to the issue of the essays under discussion at the moment.
Amity June 05, 2025 at 08:42 #992287
Quoting Jamal
I don't know if the potential publishers of philosophical essays apply the same exclusivity criteria as many of the fiction magazines do. From my very cursory research, they seem to be more permissive, meaning that if someone wanted to get their essay published, for example on Aeon, it might still be possible.

If anyone is thinking of doing that they should speak up and I'll do what needs to be done


Thank you. I think it would be good to clarify for future events. Perhaps, publication issues/ criteria to be included in the Guidance? To warn potential posters of potential or real problems? Or to reassure.

Not everyone will read your advice and reassurance in this post. And best done by PM, if they do.
I'm curious. What, exactly, would need to be done by you?

Quoting Jamal
As it is, most if not all participants would have assumed the essays were going to be viewable to non-members, since that is always the default on TPF and discussion forums generally.


Perhaps so. But any participants, who have followed your previous policy of privacy under the Symposium, are just as likely to have assumed that to be the status quo. The need for you to have been able to publish elsewhere applicable to everyone and to philosophy essays.







Jamal June 05, 2025 at 08:48 #992288
Quoting Amity
Thank you. I think it would be good to clarify for future events.


Yes, I agree. What we need in future is to establish how much people want to be able to publish their TPF work elsewhere. Perhaps some people are unaware that essays already published on the internet often cannot be published in magazines and other publications. It's common knowledge, but it hadn't occurred to me when I put my plum pie in the TPF oven of competition.

EDIT: On the other hand, only two participants have ever shown any concern about getting their work published (me and hyper) and it is otherwise assumed that posts on TPF will be public.
Jack Cummins June 05, 2025 at 08:54 #992291
Reply to Jamal
I agree with you ultimately. The fear of plagiarism may be too negative and, in a way, I would feel honoured by anything I say being selected to be plagiarized!

I guess that I have just been wondering about Feedspot ever since I have been getting emails from it. So, your clarification about it is helpful.
Amity June 05, 2025 at 08:57 #992292
Quoting Jamal
EDIT: On the other hand, only two participants have ever shown any concern about getting their work published (me and hyper) and it is otherwise assumed that posts on TPF will be public.


Oh, and you were doing so well. I almost gave you a :up:


Jamal June 05, 2025 at 09:13 #992293
Reply to Amity

Ultimately, I have nothing against making the situation clear in the rules next time.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:00 #992659
Not quoting @Moliere.

Hello. Apologies. For years now, in the Literary Event and now here, I have included quotes from the story/essay. Fair enough. However, it is the name of the host e.g. Baden, Noble Dust and now, Moliere that appears. You must all have received notifications. Every time. How annoying. For both you and the authors.

Today, I realised that I could edit and remove the name until all that is left is 'quote' at the beginning.
The word quote inside [ ].
There is no doubt a better, quicker way to use the quote system? So that it jumps back to the point in the essay...




Jamal June 07, 2025 at 09:09 #992661
Quoting Amity
So that it jumps back to the point in the essay...


It jumps back to the top of the post but not to a point within the post, unless there is a special way of implementing anchor links that I’m not aware of.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:12 #992662
Reply to Jamal
Yes, that is true. But that only happens when the blue link (name) is activated, no? When you leave it simply as a nameless quote that doesn't happen, does it?
Jamal June 07, 2025 at 09:17 #992663
Quoting Author
Yes, that is true. But that only happens when the blue link (name) is activated, no? When you leave it simply as a nameless quote that doesn't happen, does it?


That’s right, the numeric code after the semicolon points back to the post.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:20 #992666
Reply to Jamal So, there ya go. 'Moliere' can now be replaced by 'Author'. I like it! :up:
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:23 #992667
Quoting Author
That’s right, the numeric code after the semicolon points back to the post.
Got it.



Jamal June 07, 2025 at 09:30 #992669
Quoting Amity
So, there ya go. 'Moliere' can now be replaced by 'Author'. I like it!


But Moliere will probably still get the notification, because he posted the post identified by the number.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:32 #992671
Reply to Jamal Really?! Och, Jings Almighty. Whatever can be done... :worry:
Jamal June 07, 2025 at 09:49 #992673
Quoting Amity
Really?! Och, Jings Almighty. Whatever can be done...


In this quotation I’ve replaced the ID number with the post’s full URL, which you can get from the share button at the bottom of every post. I’m guessing you won’t get a notification, even though you wrote the post.

Trouble is it opens in a new browser tab.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 09:52 #992674
Reply to Jamal OK. :lol:
Thanks for trying. It's not really worth the bother, is it?! But I will use 'Author' in future, even if it disturbs Moliere. He can take it!

Edit: I did get the notification.
Moliere June 07, 2025 at 13:47 #992715
Reply to Amity I get the notification, but it doesn't bother me.
Amity June 07, 2025 at 14:18 #992719
Reply to Moliere Good, I'm glad!
Amity June 09, 2025 at 12:12 #993183
I don't know about the authors, or other readers, but I'm enjoying taking time to read and respond to each essay. To puzzle things out before someone steps in to correct my interpretation. Because I change my mind as I go along. Other aspects of an issue or questions arise. For me, it's a fascinating process. Slow and deliberate interspersed with sparks and flashes!

Even if I'm nowhere near the mark, the essays have stimulated and provoked thoughts and feelings.
Each one has something different to offer. Thank you, again, dear authors.

I wish more readers would join in. Rather than stick to one or two essays, why not explore further? I think some essays and their ideas could do with a bit more attention, love and critical appraisal. Encouragement.

I think I have one left to read and respond to. Two, if you count Wittgenstein...

Looking forward to meeting the authors. Linking up the 'what' with the 'who'.
Thanks to @Moliere - The list of authors will come out on the 15th for the guessing game. Then the reveal on the 16th, so the authors can give feedback and natter...hopefully, if not too discouraged.







Amity June 10, 2025 at 08:10 #993394
A reminder - see bolds.
Quoting Moliere
After the authors are revealed on June 16th the authors can:
1. Respond to the comments and feedback.
2. Join in the general discussion, compare and contrast other essays. Note: authors, as readers, can comment on specific essays before this


Authors can, are encouraged to, respond to other essays not their own. The more the merrier.
RussellA June 10, 2025 at 08:36 #993398
I have read some of the comments and it might be that an opportunity is being missed

For example, one could ask whether the writing is in fact philosophical writing. Is the content philosophical or is the writing about the content philosophical?

Even if it is philosophical writing, is it a philosophical essay? A philosophical essay is a sub-group within philosophical writing.

Even if a philosophical essay, can it be improved? A philosophical essay has certain requirements. Are these being met?

This exercise is a great opportunity to learn, not only about the nature of philosophy but also about the expression of philosophy within language.
AmadeusD June 10, 2025 at 19:47 #993492
@Moliere
@Leontiskos

I decided, at the time I commented, to wait for another opportunity. It's all good :) I fucked up and missed out on submitting.
Amity June 15, 2025 at 12:01 #994603
Hey there!
Thought I'd post the List of the 13 wonderful essays. Now all we need is for @Moliere to start the 'Meet the Authors' thread, or whatever he's going to call it...
Of course, some authors are easy to guess but best hold fire. Come on, Moliere!!!

[TPF Essay] Wittgenstein's Hinges and Gödel's Unprovable Statements
[TPF Essay] Bubbles and Styx In: Pondering the Past
[TPF Essay] Dante and the Deflation of Reason
[TPF Essay] What Does It Mean to Be Human?
[TPF Essay] Cognitive Experiences are a Part of Material Reality
[TPF Essay] The Frame Before the Question
[TPF Essay] Part 1 & Part 2
[TPF Essay] Technoethics: Freedom, Precarity, and Enzymatic Knowledge Machines
[TPF Essay] The Authoritarian Liberty Paradox
[TPF Essay] An Exploration Between the Balance Between State and Individual Interests
[TPF Essay] My Soul is like the Dead Sea
[TPF Essay] The Insides and Outsides of 'Reality': Exploring Possibilities
[TPF Essay] The importance of the Philosophical Essay within philosophy


Amity June 30, 2025 at 12:09 #997983
30th June 2025. Officially, the June event is over. Whatever happens next is up to @Moliere and team. Thanks to all involved in this fascinating experiment. :clap: :100:

The writing events will not be the same without dear friend, Vera. For those who haven't been following, here is the thread with the news of her sudden passing. Along with wonderful tributes:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/16032/the-passing-of-vera-mont-dear-friend/p1

I leave now with her words ringing out; positive, clear and wise as ever:

Overall, it's been engaging, challenging, worthwhile and even fun.
— Vera

Just like you, Vera. Just like you. A joy of imagination and creativity. Serious with humour. OK, sometimes a bit of a devil! Thanks for your friendship, care and understanding. Love and Peace :heart: :flower:

Moliere June 30, 2025 at 12:19 #997985
Reply to Amity I'll unpin this message since the event is officially over, but honestly I'm going to keep commenting on them too. There's two essays I've yet to respond to, and so will do that by the end of day today.

But they all have a lot of richness and capability to continue spurring on discussion. Unlike an OP, though, I've had to put more effort into even a first response in order to respect the time and care that all of the authors put into their works.

I'm really impressed with everyone's work -- I felt a lot of different thoughts going in various ways I wouldn't have without having read them all. The hardest part was even attempting to offer some kind of critical feedback in the spirit of philosophy because of how good they all were. So thanks to everyone for your work! I know I'll continue to respond even though the event is "officially over".
Amity June 30, 2025 at 12:29 #997990
Quoting Moliere
I'm really impressed with everyone's work -- I felt a lot of different thoughts going in various ways I wouldn't have without having read them all.


Yes. I think reading and responding to them all is worthwhile. And respectful. The essays aren't going anywhere. Resting in the subforum of The Symposium. So many ways of experiencing, writing and 'doing' philosophy. It's not always possible, given ability, time and energy levels. But, yeah. Keep writing! :flower:

Amity June 30, 2025 at 12:32 #997992
Quoting Moliere
There's two essays I've yet to respond to, and so will do that by the end of day today.


I know. I've been keeping a close eye! Looking forward to more of your insightful feedback :cool:
Hopefully, others too...
Amity June 30, 2025 at 12:37 #997993
Quoting Moliere
But they all have a lot of richness and capability to continue spurring on discussion. Unlike an OP, though, I've had to put more effort into even a first response in order to respect the time and care that all of the authors put into their works.


Exactly this. Thank you for highlighting the care and effort involved.

Authors will appreciate such acknowledgement. Hell, even a - Great work :100: with a sentence would do. Or - Yeah, not bad but what about this... : Or a - WTF :grimace: with a question!

It's not rocket science, as they say...but an ongoing conversation. I enjoy your encouraging attitude and engaging style. Like many others here. Suggestions can move ideas forward...more food for thought. Making connections.

Carry on the good work.
Jack Cummins June 30, 2025 at 15:54 #998013
Reply to Amity
Yes, @Moliere s comments were helpful. It may have felt like a chore at times to write responses. I must admit that 13 essays seemed a bit overwhelming. I tried to give feedback on as many as I could, but a few I missed because I got fairly tired, especially as a lot of the essays were long.

What I felt may have 'gone wrong' a little was a lack of 'fun' element, which was present in the short story competitions. I wonder if it was because there was not a competition, or whether the word 'essay' makes the writing seem too serious and reminiscent of school essays.

Also, giving feedback is not easy on any piece of writing is difficult. The line between criticism and appreciation is blurry. Certainly, there was no mere 'rubbishing' of attempts and an attitude of respect. Some may enjoy 'rubbishing' and critical attack of another's point of view and writing. The ideal may be giving some ideas of what may have worked and what didn't from the reader's perspective. It may be harder to review work which is excellent and the essays which I ignored may have been because I felt a little out of my depth in concentration and understanding. But, yes, short reviews may help because it is hard to interpret 'silence', and whether it signifies lack of interest.
Amity June 30, 2025 at 20:26 #998036
Reply to Jack Cummins Thanks, Jack, for sharing your experience and thoughtful feedback. As always, reflections most helpful. Useful to consider.
Moliere June 30, 2025 at 21:48 #998042
Quoting Jack Cummins
What I felt may have 'gone wrong' a little was a lack of 'fun' element, which was present in the short story competitions. I wonder if it was because there was not a competition, or whether the word 'essay' makes the writing seem too serious and reminiscent of school essays.


I could have done a better job here. And truthfully my hope is someone else takes the spot of coordinator for next year -- I'd like to participate next time!
RussellA July 03, 2025 at 08:40 #998471
Quoting Moliere
I'd like to participate next time!


"My hope was to elicit both kinds of writing, at least, if with more effort than we usually put into OP's and responses."

This challenge was a fantastic opportunity to learn and improve. I look forward to next year's Philosophical Writing Challenge. I have an idea for my topic. (edited)

Philosophical Writing Challenge 2026

Attempt one at 4)

Perhaps Rule 4) should read "Must be philosophical writing. The Title and Topic are chosen by the author."

4) is a rule rather than a guideline, as a guideline can be ignored.

"Essay" has a specific meaning within philosophical writing.

The expression "fall under the broad category" is redundant and slightly confusing. "Must fall under the broad category of philosophical writing" says no more than "Must be philosophical writing".

This allows, as you say, "both kinds of writing".

As Zachary Fruhling writes, philosophical writing includes the novel, the poetic, the aphoristic, the journal, the epistle, the dialogue, the letter, the philosophical essay, the exegesis, the compare and contrast, the blog, the treatise, etc.

Attempt two at 4)

However, this wording doesn't avoid the problem of Threads that ramble in all directions. As you say "more effort than we usually put into OP's and responses"

The piece of philosophical writing must be a consistent piece of work. If it starts as a poem it shouldn't morph into a dialogue. If it purports to be a philosophical essay, it shouldn't leave out a thesis.

Perhaps Rule 4) should read "Must be philosophical writing. The Title, Topic and Form are chosen by the author. There are many different forms of philosophical writing, including the poetic, aphoristic, essay, etc, but whichever form the author chooses, their writing must be consistent within their chosen form"

These two sources may be useful

1) The Royal Institute of Philosophy and its Think Essay Prize

2) The John Locke Institute's Global Essay Prize and its questions for philosophy

It is interesting that both these sources restrict their philosophical entry to philosophical essays, where philosophical essays have specific requirements.
Amity July 03, 2025 at 08:58 #998472
Quoting RussellA
It is interesting that both these sources restrict their philosophical entry to philosophical essays, where philosophical essays have specific requirements.


They are competitions.









Amity July 03, 2025 at 09:14 #998475
Quoting Moliere
I could have done a better job here. And truthfully my hope is someone else takes the spot of coordinator for next year -- I'd like to participate next time!


I think that we both did as well as we could for a pair of first-timers starting a new challenge for TPF.

The OP and Guidelines can be changed, improved or whatever by whoever takes over.
As in the Short Stories event, started by @Baden - it will evolve...

The problem seems to lie with the word 'essay' or perhaps in 'philosophy'.
Some take a narrow view of both. Some further clarification required.

Overall, it is most satisfying to see that 13 authors submitted their work. Fortunately, they understood the philosophy underlying the event. The spirit, flexibility and diversity appreciated. :sparkle: :flower:


RussellA July 03, 2025 at 11:47 #998491
Quoting Amity
The problem seems to lie with the word 'essay' or perhaps in 'philosophy'.
Some take a narrow view of both. Some further clarification required.


From page 1 of this Thread:

Resources were requested for help on what exactly an academic philosophy essay should look like, and provided by @Amity so I've appended them here:

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-lenman-how-to-write-a-crap-philosophy-essay.pdf

https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/graphics/berkich/texts/james-pryor-guidelines-on-writing-a-philosophy-paper.pdf

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~assets/doc/University_life/learning_teaching/posing_the_question.pdf
Amity July 03, 2025 at 11:52 #998492
Quoting RussellA
From page 1 of this Thread:


Yes. What is your point?