Logical thinking has suppressed new Innovations?

RadicalJoe July 12, 2025 at 23:10 875 views 8 comments
We use dreams to escape reality cause it defines logic, and forget it's the source of creativity and innovation. Where the unconscious is free to explore, express, and be without judgment. Keep dreaming and your head up, remembering most illogical ideas have given rise to our own reality, we will keep pushing to challenge our own reality and shape it. Never forget our imagination helps break boundaries from social expectations.

Requesting opinions regarding different perspectives regarding, logical thinking as how one should live in today's society. Ultimately suppression individualism, creativity, and higher consciousness.

Comments (8)

unenlightened July 13, 2025 at 12:50 #1000209
Reply to RadicalJoe A different perspective:

Head in the clouds and head in the sand both leave your ass exposed. Keep your ass covered and under your tit, your feet on the ground, and your head on your shoulders.
RadicalJoe July 14, 2025 at 04:01 #1000367
Clouds in my ass and in my soul drain my willingness to atone. Leaving your ass exposed enlightens what dells within your soul.
jgill July 14, 2025 at 05:19 #1000373
In mathematics one's imagination leads to new concepts or ways to prove existing conjectures. Then the application of logic finishes the job.
RadicalJoe July 14, 2025 at 06:03 #1000375
Thanks jgill @

? Imagination is Illogical ?

We use dreams to escape reality cause it defines logic, and forget it's the source of creativity and innovation. Where the unconscious is free to explore, express, and be without judgment. Keep dreaming and your head up, remembering most illogical ideas have given rise to our own reality, we will keep pushing to challenge our own reality and shape it. Never forget our imagination helps break boundaries from social expectations. Those who benefit most from linear systems are fueled by power and greed. Logical thinking has become how one should live in today's society, ultimately suppression individualism, creativity, and higher consciousness. It's the illogical nature of dreams that allows us to break free and imagine new worlds entirely, that requires careful, rational thought and persistence.

"The imagination is not a state: it is the human existence itself." - William Blake

Logic builds walls, Dreams restructure them.
Our future belongs to those who dare to imagine.
Sir2u July 15, 2025 at 17:26 #1000636
Quoting RadicalJoe

We use dreams to escape reality cause it defines logic, and forget it's the source of creativity and innovation.

Logic builds walls, Dreams restructure them.
Our future belongs to those who dare to imagine.


As an old saying goes, "ya cant hav on widout de odder", because that is the way the brain works.

For dreams to be of any use the must have some logic to them.
Dreams often contain the impossible or fantastical, such as walking in the clouds, which have little to do with reality.

For imagination to be of any use it must contain logic. We can imagine what reality would be like after we add or remove something to it. Imagination goes hand in hand with logic for it to serve any useful purpose.

Logic does not build walls, it makes the imagination concrete.
Athena July 16, 2025 at 14:36 #1000813
I asked google for what Einstein said about imagination and got this AI response...

Albert Einstein famously said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." He also stated, "Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.". These quotes highlight the power of imagination in expanding understanding and fostering progress, surpassing the boundaries of what is already known.


Well-known inventors, including Einstein, found the answer to a problem in a dream.

Yes, some inventions and discoveries have been inspired by dreams. Several famous examples include Elias Howe's sewing machine, Dmitri Mendeleev's periodic table, and Kekulé's benzene ring structure. These individuals reported experiencing a dream or dream-like state where the solution to a problem or the structure of something complex became clear.
Manuel July 16, 2025 at 14:53 #1000817
It's not as if we can be logical all the time even if wanted to. And there's no clear distinction between "logical thinking" and "imagination". One could gesture at numbers and ask, "where are they?" You don't see a 1 or a 2 in the empirical world.

The most logical people in fact relied on imagination for proofs that logic finds quite iron-clad, to a certain degree of approximation.

To take two examples, Newton started wondering about the power of gravity as he saw an apple fall to the ground and wondered why do apples fall instead of going up? Working on the problem he discovered gravity.

Einstein said his "happiest thought" was imaging what a man falling from a building would feel like - this eventually led him to relativity.

So, the logical/imagination line is blurrier than what we may initially suppose it to be.
night912 July 19, 2025 at 20:59 #1001451
We use dreams to escape reality cause it defines logic, and forget it's the source of creativity and innovation.

Logic builds walls, Dreams restructure them.
Our future belongs to those who dare to imagine.

Reply to RadicalJoe

No, ignorance build walls, logic opens up doors.

I'll use what you said above as an example. Logic, sees that it's a false dichotomy and open doors seeking creativity and innovation in both reality and dreams. Ignorance build walls between reality and dreams, separating the two, preventing imagination from becoming reality.

Those who are afraid to imagine, remains stuck in the past. The ignorant who dared to imagined, is presently lost in their imagination. Those who are logical and dares to imagine continues moving forward into the future.

Imagination using logic = science

Imagination without logic = pseudoscience